I really like this series & find it unique & interesting, though I do not have Apple + streaming service & It is not yet downloading in order & all the episodes to my ‘PLEX’ service, so all I have watched are FIRST-2-EPISODES, SO PLEASE NOTHING ABOUT EPISODES PAST 2ND.
What is your opinions?
SPOILERS-
I do love the idea that our stupid need to explore space (while <not in the series> on Earth there are huge, sick & evil problems that gets push aside) causes a microscopic beings into Earth & they escape through scientist. With that being said, I am so tired of this Individualism in our society & is manipulated a lot for Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes’/Owners’ increased wealths, thus her trying keep what makes her an individual & trying to save what all of her species members individuals (personality & such) is the only story line. I also love that the microscopic Beings do not want them to want for anything or come to the least bit of harm. I love how interesting it is when the main character passes-out, I assume from drinking or gets angry, they freak-out/rush over to help her, only to drop to the ground & pass-out themselves. Though I can guess where that is headed,
See if you think this would have been a better story line to the series-
Our stupid need to explore space & need for Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners to make profits/wealths over everything else, while on Earth there are huge, sick & evil problems that gets push aside. It bites our species in the BLANK when we decide to kidnap a microscopic Beings back to Earth, with returning robots & they escape within a scientist, because she accidentally injects herself with some of them. The microscopic Beings are of two-make-ups, one is like ‘The Pluribus’ series where they are all of one-minds & no room for individuality & the other make-up is all are individuals & no room for shared existence, no matter how many bodies they both take over. Both are the problems, but the members of our species that cannot yet be turned into either one of these microscopic Beings, or better to say under their control, are at a better make-up of SEPARATE minds, individuals that though when called for can & do become individuals that work together as group, for the species survival. Sure I like how the members of our species that cannot yet be turned are far from healthy members of our species. Like the main character is a alcoholic.
I really enjoyed the show and look forward to more. There’s a lot going on in terms of metaphor use, with Vince Gilligan’s somewhat dry humor.
I just torrented the whole series since I’m also not subbed to Apple at the moment.
Got me to finally go back to watch Better Call Saul which I just finished recently! And now I’m back onto Breaking Bad for the second time.
There’s a lot going on in terms of metaphor use, with Vince Gilligan’s somewhat dry humor.
What are those?
So it’s difficult to discuss this show as you’ve only seen the first two episodes and I’ve watched all nine episodes twice.
However even from the first two episodes, I’m not sure you and I watched the same show.
I think it’s fine to wish for a show to be something, but you can’t fault a show for not being something it never tried to be. You can’t watch Shakespeare and complain that it lacked a big car chase scene.
I think you’ve picked up on some of the themes of Pluribus, but you haven’t caught them all, and you may be wrong about others.
You can’t watch Shakespeare and complain that it lacked a big car chase scene.
Hey, now that you mention it, that’s a huge problem. Who funded these scripts?
THE WHOLE 9-episodes twice! WOW! How?
Thanks for not spoiling,
I think it’s fine to wish for a show to be something, but you can’t fault a show for not being something it never tried to be.
It is not coincidence that there are shows that start-out the way I would have preferred, The Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners do not okay their studios to make those shows. & that influences the shows they get pitched,
You can’t watch Shakespeare and complain that it lacked a big car chase scene.
Come man, that is a terrible analogy to what the series is to what I would preferred it to be. Shakespeare’s time knew nothing our automobiles, let their big chase scenes.
Absolutely hated it. The realism Vince goes for directly clashes with all scifi elements. Especially when he’s trying to show how ‘connected’ the intelligence is. They make so many asinine decisions it begs the question as to whether it’s actually connecting humanity, even while the show is showing that it does by doing many things that could only happen if there’s some sort of mass communication.
The realism by itself is good. I love Breaking Bad. Though the poor scifi writing of the first couple episodes absolutely ruined it for me. While the show is portraying things as realistic, what is actually happening is beyond ridiculous even within the established fictional universe.
TL;DR: The scifi elements are beyond garbage.
What asinine decisions do the Hive make?
When you are dealing with advanced & outside our notions of what aliens are & what can be done, then anything can just about be done. Look at ‘Star Trek’ universe’s Original Series, ‘The Next Generation’ & ‘The Animated Series’ for example,
Who is Vince?
I do not know what TL;DR means?
No, that is stupid. In the show, they say the consciousness is mostly just ‘connecting’ humans. … and then MANY people go on to do things professionals in related fields would NEVER do: That’s stupid, unrealistic writing.
This isn’t a problem of what’s possible in scifi. It’s many problems within the universe they’re establishing.
I understand what half our sentence is communicating, for previous stated reasons I am good with it. But the second part of sentence I you were trying to say, they say that since each infected body shares the whole minds of the whole that are infected, any infected body can do what anyother inefected body can do. Again for previous stated reasons I am good with it.
It is not the fact that they are connected that I have a problem with. It is what they do while they are supposedly within the same mind as professionals…
is that not what I said in my previous reply? If not, then what do you mean?
See my other replies for specific examples. The show is rife with decisions that not only would professionals not make, but decisions that a sensible person wouldn’t regardless of any hive mind connection.
Makes sense to me with the limitation of how much one human brain can process at once. The only flaw that bothered me is sending any signal from a brain in the first place which should have also been limited at least by range and latency.
That is an awesome point, I had not thought of that. With that being said, could not be dealt at least some, by just leaving the stuff you do not need in the original mind & use only what you need from that mind.
Why would you not key in on the knowledge of professionals in the exact field you’re currently trying to do something in? Even with limited processing, you’d think they’d at LEAST be able to act like a professional in the field they’re currently attempting to operate in…
I get more from this reply what mean. I do not see them not having the professional skills? What does the professional behaviors matter, they are not the skills to do the professional things, like they ober & over again flying jets & helicopters.
It sounds like you have a very large dearth of knowledge as to what constitutes ‘professional’ behavior, but for an obvious example… Flying a large plane with one person that is designed to require at least three people to even function is a HUGE lapse of judgement.
Not only is the control scheme specifically designed for multiple people to operate, but it is absolutely stupid to have one person on a plane. Not only is it a massive waste of resources to fly a large plane for one person, not only would it be nigh impossible to operate such a plane as a single person, but they could still have an individual event like a heart attack or stroke, leading to literally nobody able to take over.
It’s stupid, and that’s ONE event in the show. The rest are just as dumb.
I think this is a very small grievance. I don’t recall if that girl was the only person in the cockpit at the time, but you can just imagine there were two other hived there if you want to.
Im going to coach this in vague language to avoid spoilers.
The key I think you missed in that sequence is that no one person is important. That person is introduced doing “menial” tasks while filthy. They are pointing out that individual comfort is nigh pointless, as each of the hosts is just part of something larger. The human needs once youre joined are minimized on an individual level, or at least, met in a different way.
That host was selected for a reason, but even if they did die and crash one of tens of thousands of planes they dont really need, they could send another, very similiar host to complete that goal. The “whole” considered her flying alone to be safe enough, or at least irrevelvant enough if it caused an issue, and they were ultimately correct. She arrived unharmed, promptly. With how the “whole” views the “unjoined,” using a large plane to assist her is likely seen as the best possible use of resources. Later episodes comfirm this viewpoint.
In the end, that single host flying a large plane alone just to arrive somewhere quickly seems insane to us, but fits the “wholes” personality to a tee.
It sounds like you have a very large dearth of knowledge as to what constitutes ‘professional’ behavior
I agree with you, no single person can know the professional behaviors/skills needed for many professions let alone all professions.
Flying a large plane with one person that is designed to require at least three people to even function is a HUGE lapse of judgement.
I think these large planes can be flown by one-person, but I will let be right on that, I do not know as professional whether you are right. You know something you are not taking in consideration for this whole reply’s complaints, is there are what 1-billion people dead by 2nd-episode, & it is increasing in the future episodes as they find more dead. All but what 12-people are under control of all microscopic Beings. There are few planes flying; look at how empty the airports & skies are.
Then about the killing The Living Earth practices of transporting only one-person, & other such practices, I was right there with you, but then the obvious answers smacks you in the face. The negatives on our planet’s health & thus all Living Beings have nearly drop to nothing, with fewer population & few transportation.
Plus, the infected person overseeing to the main character’s pleasure, needs & safety, told another un-infected male character that they cannot feed him any Beings’ meat, because they cannot harm Living Beings, thus they only can make Vegan foods. I love that, as a Vegan.
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