I really like this series & find it unique & interesting, though I do not have Apple + streaming service & It is not yet downloading in order & all the episodes to my ‘PLEX’ service, so all I have watched are FIRST-2-EPISODES, SO PLEASE NOTHING ABOUT EPISODES PAST 2ND.
What is your opinions?
SPOILERS-
I do love the idea that our stupid need to explore space (while <not in the series> on Earth there are huge, sick & evil problems that gets push aside) causes a microscopic beings into Earth & they escape through scientist. With that being said, I am so tired of this Individualism in our society & is manipulated a lot for Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes’/Owners’ increased wealths, thus her trying keep what makes her an individual & trying to save what all of her species members individuals (personality & such) is the only story line. I also love that the microscopic Beings do not want them to want for anything or come to the least bit of harm. I love how interesting it is when the main character passes-out, I assume from drinking or gets angry, they freak-out/rush over to help her, only to drop to the ground & pass-out themselves. Though I can guess where that is headed,
See if you think this would have been a better story line to the series-
Our stupid need to explore space & need for Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners to make profits/wealths over everything else, while on Earth there are huge, sick & evil problems that gets push aside. It bites our species in the BLANK when we decide to kidnap a microscopic Beings back to Earth, with returning robots & they escape within a scientist, because she accidentally injects herself with some of them. The microscopic Beings are of two-make-ups, one is like ‘The Pluribus’ series where they are all of one-minds & no room for individuality & the other make-up is all are individuals & no room for shared existence, no matter how many bodies they both take over. Both are the problems, but the members of our species that cannot yet be turned into either one of these microscopic Beings, or better to say under their control, are at a better make-up of SEPARATE minds, individuals that though when called for can & do become individuals that work together as group, for the species survival. Sure I like how the members of our species that cannot yet be turned are far from healthy members of our species. Like the main character is a alcoholic.
Makes sense to me with the limitation of how much one human brain can process at once. The only flaw that bothered me is sending any signal from a brain in the first place which should have also been limited at least by range and latency.
That is an awesome point, I had not thought of that. With that being said, could not be dealt at least some, by just leaving the stuff you do not need in the original mind & use only what you need from that mind.
Why would you not key in on the knowledge of professionals in the exact field you’re currently trying to do something in? Even with limited processing, you’d think they’d at LEAST be able to act like a professional in the field they’re currently attempting to operate in…
I get more from this reply what mean. I do not see them not having the professional skills? What does the professional behaviors matter, they are not the skills to do the professional things, like they ober & over again flying jets & helicopters.
It sounds like you have a very large dearth of knowledge as to what constitutes ‘professional’ behavior, but for an obvious example… Flying a large plane with one person that is designed to require at least three people to even function is a HUGE lapse of judgement.
Not only is the control scheme specifically designed for multiple people to operate, but it is absolutely stupid to have one person on a plane. Not only is it a massive waste of resources to fly a large plane for one person, not only would it be nigh impossible to operate such a plane as a single person, but they could still have an individual event like a heart attack or stroke, leading to literally nobody able to take over.
It’s stupid, and that’s ONE event in the show. The rest are just as dumb.
I think this is a very small grievance. I don’t recall if that girl was the only person in the cockpit at the time, but you can just imagine there were two other hived there if you want to.
lol no. Imagining other pilots does NOT magically make it a good idea to fly a cargo plane without a copilot or flight engineer…
Again, the plane is LITERALLY DESIGNED to be flown by multiple people…
Yeah, I know. I’m just saying it seems like a small oversight that doesn’t really change anything regarding the hive as a whole. You can just imagine there were two other people in the background.
Im going to coach this in vague language to avoid spoilers.
The key I think you missed in that sequence is that no one person is important. That person is introduced doing “menial” tasks while filthy. They are pointing out that individual comfort is nigh pointless, as each of the hosts is just part of something larger. The human needs once youre joined are minimized on an individual level, or at least, met in a different way.
That host was selected for a reason, but even if they did die and crash one of tens of thousands of planes they dont really need, they could send another, very similiar host to complete that goal. The “whole” considered her flying alone to be safe enough, or at least irrevelvant enough if it caused an issue, and they were ultimately correct. She arrived unharmed, promptly. With how the “whole” views the “unjoined,” using a large plane to assist her is likely seen as the best possible use of resources. Later episodes comfirm this viewpoint.
In the end, that single host flying a large plane alone just to arrive somewhere quickly seems insane to us, but fits the “wholes” personality to a tee.
Nope. Absolutely not at all. Proved by the writing of the episodes. If one person isn’t important… WHY FLY A PLANE THAT REQUIRES MULTIPLE PEOPLE WITH ONE PERSON!?
If they care so much about a SINGLE PERSON (like the MAIN CHARACTER), why run the risk!? It’s stupid. It’s asinine. It doesn’t make sense.
If the entity truly connected all human minds, it would be of no significant consequence to murder the handful of people that didn’t ‘connect’. Period. Ever. Humanity has proven that a handful of deaths is nothing in the face of progress.
Why should that change now that everyone is connected?
The entire show is trash on face value.
It didnt actually require multiple people in the show, but that could just be creative license. Im not a pilot, but I bet that plane “should for safety and efficency be flown by multiple people,” but I doubt it literally requires 3+ people to be operating it to fly. Its not like it needs 3+ people to push levers and turns the wheel at the same time to work, its just reckless to not have redundancies.
That recklessness is the point. Again, being hazy for spoiler reasons, but that host is both very important and not important at all. She is the literally best person on earth for the role she is about to play, but is also disposable. In the total billions of people on earth, thousands of others could do what she does if they need to, but at that moment, she is the “best,” so she has the maximuim resources to succeed. That includes a moterbike, a plane, hair and makeup staff, resort showers, vehicles at the destination/etc. She is about to interact with what the “whole” think is someone very important.
As to the “why dont they murder the unjoined,” i think we are stepping into spoilers here, but ill say vaguely that they are literally aliens. Humans might kill those unjoined and be done with it, but they arent us. That question is a core part of the show. The “who, the what, the why” of them, and what it means for the remaining humans, is the show. How do the humans and aliens react to each other is literally the point.
The showrunners have really straddled the surreal nature of the aliens and their interaction with the remains of our civilization. Its very, very strange how they act, but makes a lot of sense when the show explains what they value. I think showing that “weirdness” is done very well, as it lends one to wonder what is truly valuable in an “alien” mind, and in, contrast, why we value what we do. Thats an interesting topic they do credit to.
No, it LITERALLY requires multiple people.
In either case, if the entity prefers to minimize damage, flying with one pilot is LITERALLY more risk. Period.
Ontop of this, if the point is to sell some alternative narrative of care, it is wholly bad writing to project so much failure of intent.
Well, clearly the writers dont know much about flying a cargo plane, or just used her flying it filthy, alone and serene as a way to make a bigger point about how the aliens value their lives, and in contrast, human lives. I expect it was more the latter than the former, but either may be true.
I can tell you as a person who does not fly cargo planes, that their point about “alienness” came across very well in that shot. Its unfortunate that it did not for you, but I expect it did translate for those outsite of your profession.
Because they value life and are extremely empathetic beings. If your priority is preserving life in all its form, if you are driven to sharing what you experience with the rest of existence, then murder is no solution. Do they want progress? Sure: they are still highly curious beings after the joining, but not at the expense of another life, regardless of how easy or convenient it might appear to be from a “rational” standpoint.
And as for the plane, could it not be seen as arrogance symptomatic of the joining? I mean sure, those things you mentioned could happen – heart attack, complications – but the collective is so confident in its knowledge and ability that it doesn’t think the likelihood of complications ensuing is high enough to crew the plane with more than one person.
Then they CANNOT value all human lives down to an individual. Period.
If they’re so concerned about issues, flying a CARGO PLANE for one person is an absolutely TERRIBLE way to show it!
Do they connect all human knowledge or do they not? If they do, they would KNOW how terrible such a simple idea is.
Again, I’m not against the ideas presented in the show. I’m just wholly against how those ideas develop in the show…
I agree with you, no single person can know the professional behaviors/skills needed for many professions let alone all professions.
I think these large planes can be flown by one-person, but I will let be right on that, I do not know as professional whether you are right. You know something you are not taking in consideration for this whole reply’s complaints, is there are what 1-billion people dead by 2nd-episode, & it is increasing in the future episodes as they find more dead. All but what 12-people are under control of all microscopic Beings. There are few planes flying; look at how empty the airports & skies are.
Then about the killing The Living Earth practices of transporting only one-person, & other such practices, I was right there with you, but then the obvious answers smacks you in the face. The negatives on our planet’s health & thus all Living Beings have nearly drop to nothing, with fewer population & few transportation.
Plus, the infected person overseeing to the main character’s pleasure, needs & safety, told another un-infected male character that they cannot feed him any Beings’ meat, because they cannot harm Living Beings, thus they only can make Vegan foods. I love that, as a Vegan.
Let me tell you, there are MANY people amongst 5 billion people who know how to fly that plane… If there wasn’t a large pool of knowlege to pull from, why try it solo!?
If these “beings” (which were specifically NOT described in the opening dialog with the main character. At all.) were so interested in not harming anyone, flying a smaller plane was an OBVIOUS avenue to reduce the harm. There are MANY models of jets that would burn less fuel to travel faster for a single passenger.
Again, so many of these people with supposedly the knowledge of all humanity make STUPID AND HARMFUL decisions…
I was talking about myself, not the series infected people-
With that being said, actually, we are well past 5-billion, right now, even with the 1-billion & increasing death toll, try 8-billion people during the 2nd episode.
There is no harm to that when there are way, way & way less planes taking off, & that is just planes. Even hitting flying birds drastically drops, maybe to zero.
What do you think all people concerned about environmental damage done right now, IRW, wish would happen? Come man think,
You are only revealing how insanely small your understanding of the world is with that defense… If these entities are willing to keep a single person alive, they WILL care about the output of a small plane vs a large plane… To think otherwise is to literally completely FAIL to understand the output of such vehicles…
If the ENIRE POINT of the ‘infection’ is to make people connected and cognisant of their impact on others, then doing such things literally and directly flies in the face of such goals. Period.
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Again, I am not against what the show is attempting to portray. It’s just painfully obvious that the writers have no fucking idea how to genuinely portray that.
I done trying to get you to understand it, it is hopeless.
The Livable Earth & All Living Beings are the most thing in my life,
i did not create this thread to verbally fight with other members, so I am letting it go.
Not a single person, but what I think is 12-people.
I think it is wrong that suddenly I cannot reply to your last reply. You need to the last word. Proof is in you already said, what was in the your last reply, in your reply before, the last reply.
What you said it last reply, I do not disagree with it.