Tourists are usually mindful of the country they’re visiting, but then most Mainland Chinese are former farm peasants who suddenly got wealthy for some reason and live in big cities, so able to even travel abroad, but unfortunately have little to no understanding of etiquette and how to properly conduct themselves elsewhere.
about the damn unable to find the toilet: I’m sure some have trouble communicating in a foreign country, or worse, unable to comprehend symbology, they end up rolling back to default behavior by just squatting and dumping where they see as convenient to them.
It still feels weird though.
Farm peasants over here, know to shit in farm areas where it would actually serve as manure, rather than right next to the street.
I would also assume they actually dig before and cover later.
usually its very unsanitory to shit in your crops, because you spread bacteria that is more harmful other people. its different from a cows dung feces over humans. E-coli being one of them, thats why they use manure of herbivorious animals over carnivores/omnivores, meat eaters have more potential to have parasites too, in the old ways. but they use synthetical manufactuered fertilizers to avoid the problems altogether.
Yeah, despite the older traditions, it is nowadays not recommended to shit directly in the crop area. And turns out traditions of a time only work at that time and place, which might depend upon other, seemingly unrelated traditions.
But it would still be better off under the soil than on a paved street.
I guess I understand another reason for that in China. Because most of them ate some sort of meat, shitting in the fields might have ended up being a bad practice.
But still, what’s up with shitting on the streets? Did they somehow just rely on the dogs to clean up the streets?
farm peasonts that have always lived there at least for hundreds or thousands of years vs american farm peasants who have been there for like 320 years max, like peasant culture is more modern/new here than other countries
I am in India. I know people that live in farm areas or have lived there in their childhood (farmer relatives).
I’m pretty sure their culture is older than just 320 years, but they didn’t go around defecating on or next to the streets, which I can say because the streets were not full of human shit. Although there would be the occasional dog shit and then large piles of sun-dried cow shit (which would also be much farther away from the streets).
Any civilisation that survives through enough disease outbreaks would have at least a rudimentary understanding of environmental cleanliness. If people are dirtying places despite that, then I consider that a reflection of accumulated malice.
Weirdly, you don’t see that behavior from Chinese tourists in China. Well I did see one dude have hus toddler piss on the floor of a train because the bathroom was occupied, but he got yelled at, because in chinese culture, its considered disrespectful to piss on the floor. They even have a concept called “别他妈的往地板上撒尿”.
its probably farm people vs city people, the latter has more etiquette than the rural folks. alot of rural chinese suddenly became RICH overnight, so they havnt adapted to proper etiquette.
I don’t know, I’ve seen grown ups pissing in the park in Shanghai, not somewhere deep in the bushes but right beside the pavement and buildings. That was not indoors, at least
Tourists are usually mindful of the country they’re visiting, but then most Mainland Chinese are former farm peasants who suddenly got wealthy for some reason and live in big cities, so able to even travel abroad, but unfortunately have little to no understanding of etiquette and how to properly conduct themselves elsewhere.
about the damn unable to find the toilet: I’m sure some have trouble communicating in a foreign country, or worse, unable to comprehend symbology, they end up rolling back to default behavior by just squatting and dumping where they see as convenient to them.
It still feels weird though.
Farm peasants over here, know to shit in farm areas where it would actually serve as manure, rather than right next to the street.
I would also assume they actually dig before and cover later.
usually its very unsanitory to shit in your crops, because you spread bacteria that is more harmful other people. its different from a cows dung feces over humans. E-coli being one of them, thats why they use manure of herbivorious animals over carnivores/omnivores, meat eaters have more potential to have parasites too, in the old ways. but they use synthetical manufactuered fertilizers to avoid the problems altogether.
What about herbivorous humans :P
Yeah, despite the older traditions, it is nowadays not recommended to shit directly in the crop area. And turns out traditions of a time only work at that time and place, which might depend upon other, seemingly unrelated traditions.
But it would still be better off under the soil than on a paved street.
I guess I understand another reason for that in China. Because most of them ate some sort of meat, shitting in the fields might have ended up being a bad practice.
But still, what’s up with shitting on the streets? Did they somehow just rely on the dogs to clean up the streets?
farm peasonts that have always lived there at least for hundreds or thousands of years vs american farm peasants who have been there for like 320 years max, like peasant culture is more modern/new here than other countries
I am in India. I know people that live in farm areas or have lived there in their childhood (farmer relatives).
I’m pretty sure their culture is older than just 320 years, but they didn’t go around defecating on or next to the streets, which I can say because the streets were not full of human shit. Although there would be the occasional dog shit and then large piles of sun-dried cow shit (which would also be much farther away from the streets).
Any civilisation that survives through enough disease outbreaks would have at least a rudimentary understanding of environmental cleanliness. If people are dirtying places despite that, then I consider that a reflection of accumulated malice.
My parents were shitting out in the fields in punjab growing up, or they claim at least lol
Most probably they did.
Weirdly, you don’t see that behavior from Chinese tourists in China. Well I did see one dude have hus toddler piss on the floor of a train because the bathroom was occupied, but he got yelled at, because in chinese culture, its considered disrespectful to piss on the floor. They even have a concept called “别他妈的往地板上撒尿”.
its probably farm people vs city people, the latter has more etiquette than the rural folks. alot of rural chinese suddenly became RICH overnight, so they havnt adapted to proper etiquette.
I don’t know, I’ve seen grown ups pissing in the park in Shanghai, not somewhere deep in the bushes but right beside the pavement and buildings. That was not indoors, at least