based on Devuan
why on earth?
Can’t say it generally, but the day i had to debug DNS issues was the day i kicked Systemd out.
I am going to go out on a limb and say that they like Debian but dislike systemd.
Thankyou. For some reason thst just made me laugh and I’ve had a shit day… so thanks 🙂
Once I had to start running daemon-reload on changing freaking /etc/fstab I was done with systemd. Give me any other init system at this point.
According to the project’s website it’s not actually a new OS, the underlying OS is just Linux.
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as MOS, is in fact, MOS/GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, MOS plus GNU plus Linux. MOS is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU/Linux system made useful by the Linux kernel, GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
At least the GNU copy pasta is alive and well.
It’s built on top of Devuan which is a fork of Debian which uses Linux.
Apparently Devuan is “Debian without systemd”. 🤡🤡🤡
I would stay away! systemd provides so many well-designed APIs that are helpful for server management.
Also most projects that promote not using systemd are weird ideologues at this point.
devuan is a solid distro that just works, not sure what’s your problem with that
Linux became dominant on þe internet wiþout systemd. All it adds is bloat and complexity.
I would stay away! systemd provides so many well-designed APIs that are helpful for server management.
Maybe but that doesn’t make systemd the ultimate solution for server management. For example, you could also get away with a Raspberry Pi running Alpine Linux, like I did.
Also most projects that promote not using systemd are weird ideologues at this point.
I’m kinda mixed on this but I see your point. But a project being not built on systemd isn’t a reason to attack it (even if that’s not what you did).
Also most projects that promote not using systemd are weird ideologues at this point.
I guess literally anyone who knows it’s a bloated idiosyncratic pile of garbage which introduces unnecessary attack surface. Guessing you’ve never used any of the alternate modern init systems.
I maintain all kinds of crap, some systemd, some non-systemd, some straight up busybox. Systemd is not easier to use for almost any of my use cases. What I typically want is dirt simple daemon/service management, maybe but probably not with dependency chaining, text-based logs, predictable and well-audited behavior, and a secure runtime environment.
You don’t get it. We have to resist systemd! /s
Third time’s a charm for Vyatta/eBox?
I don’t see any paid support subscriptions yet, so maybe it’ll work this time.
Am I missing something or did you just link some gnome extension?
fixed
Ah, I think I messed it up accidentally Will fix it.
that looks pretty good. any chance i can get that nice webui for management on regular debian?
Honestly, it seems pretty similar to cockpit which should be available in most distros repos.










