• sga@piefed.social
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        7 days ago

        well briar does not have calling on desktop (in stable yet at least), also jami can do video and screen share, and session is not p2p. what most p2p chats lack is users.

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          6 days ago

          well briar does not have calling on desktop (in stable yet at least), also jami can do video and screen share

          that’s good to know.

          what most p2p chats lack is users.

          Exactly. In order to attract more users to Jami, I really think the user interface should be improved.

          session is not p2p.

          you are right, Session is not purely peer-to-peer.

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            6 days ago

            session is basiclly federated (the same model as email and fediverse), where there are different nodes for session. and unlike mail fediverse federation, (if i am not wrong) they have balanced nodes, so basically traffic is spread rather uniformly. as for motivation for starting a node, there are not many, nodes basically form a block chain of sorts and also have something like tor (called lokinet) which also makes your comms hidden.

            i personally never got into session, because it seemed like too hard and complex (i do not like using complex software. even if i do not read to run server nodes for it, i should atleast know how it works to understand my safety model). and unlike signal (session started as a hard fork of signal afaik), they broke pfs (perfect forward secrecy - basically something magically, which makes it so that if some bad actor broke encryption for one of your messages, they can not do that for next message)

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              6 days ago

              I’ve never understood why a messaging app would require blockchain to function. Storing all text and images on the blockchain seems redundant—especially when end-to-end encryption is already in place. With E2EE, no one can modify your messages without access to your private key.

              It’s a shame they broke Perfect forward secrecy. To me, this is a very important feature to have in any E2EE system.