• Ulrich@feddit.org
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    3 days ago

    You realize not everyone in the US supports the bullshit taking place, right?

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      3 days ago

      Buycott is not about individuals in the US. Its about keeping money in our own economy and reducing economy in the US to make it clear to the people and the government that this behavior makes US products less attractive and hurts people. This is not about any individual voter although if I could only support the part of the economy not aligned with MAGA in the US I would. Problem is, the employees and companies spend it mostly in their own economy. Canada or Denmark have shown pretty successfully how buycott can work.

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          Supporting any company in the US continues to support their billionaires and continues to drive US intiated problems like MAGA into our countries via their money.

    • Agent_Karyo@piefed.world
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      2 days ago

      Why is that important?

      As someone who has lived in the US for several years (and who still talks to close friends from there), I think it is reasonable to make an assumption that in the next ~20-30 years there won’t any change with respect to support for (and dominance of) crime, corruption, authoritarianism and demagoguery in the US.

      Yhe US centre right party leadership is too corrupt, but also have no experience (or even theoretical interest) with anti-corruption/crime reforms. The party base is too well off (by relative global standards) to ever risk rocking the boat and getting serious about crime, not to mention a non-minuscule percentage of the US centre right voting base (similar to a large proportion of the far right), look up to criminals and oppose improvements to governance.

      In that context, it is reasonable to drop US purchases whenever possible.

      • Ulrich@feddit.org
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        2 days ago

        Why is that important?

        Why wouldn’t that be important? You’re punishing people who have absolutely nothing to do with, and actively oppose, the things you’re talking about, while the people responsible are completely unaffected.

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          I wish them luck (I genuinely do), but the existence of such people doesn’t change that the US will almost certainly remain commited to crime, corruption, chauvinism and demagoguery in the coming decades.

          From my experience this is not purely a US far right issue. As I mentioned in my reply, much of the centre right might oppose the current administration, but they are still opposed to anti-crime reform (if not supporting crime out-right).

          • Ulrich@feddit.org
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            2 days ago

            I wish them luck

            It sounds like you genuinely wish them the opposite, since you’re encouraging others to boycott their businesses for the crime of existing in America.

            • Agent_Karyo@piefed.world
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              That’s a mischaracterization. Trust me, it brings me no joy to see the US become a chauvinist, criminal oligarch regime. It’s a disaster to be honest.

              That being said, you do not want to send money to a regime that wishes you harm and is composed of criminals. Nor is it unreasonable to make an assumption that the dominance of criminal elements is permanent and American civil service will get permanently debased and hollowed out.

              Mind you, this sort of outcome is not surprising and a foreigner living in the US could notice the foundations of such an outcome a decade before Trump.

              • Ulrich@feddit.org
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                2 days ago

                That’s a mischaracterization.

                Then correct me. Because you’re speaking out both sides of your mouth.

                • Agent_Karyo@piefed.world
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                  2 days ago

                  It is a mischaracterization! What have I said that makes it seems to you that I support the US oligarchic regime and wish the worst to those Americans that oppose it?

                  That’s simply not true!

                  • Ulrich@feddit.org
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                    2 days ago

                    You suggested that people should boycott all American companies because of their government. I don’t know how I’m supposed to interpret that any other way.