I mentioned it in a comment below. But that also depends on how the used market works where you live. To buy something privacy-minded used, I’d have to buy it either from a meatspace vendor I can check myself, or from an online vendor that will take cash in split payments and has a verifiable history in the platforms I trust.
“But but but Google is the best, you don’t understand!!!”
GrapheneOS has amazing marketing. They have convinced people to give more money to Google than google would ever make from selling their private information. Is GrapheneOS a Scroogle-op?
It’s because Google devices are (ironically) one of the last few manufacturers that allows you to unlock the bootloader and provides mainstream “flagship” specs or foldy phones
If you want to go with an actual privacy focused phone, it requires a compromise somewhere
Make Google Pixels more valuable on the second hand market means even more reason for people to buy one new because they know it will still have value to some nerd. It still helps google.
¡Exactly! Like, at that point you could buy a Fairphone used, and if you do that in your own country at least you have some level of assurance that it was already working with the cellular network in-place.
But that means making new phoens and getting them to market (and then to an affordable price), right?
If I was to make a deal with a manufacturer it’d be about releasing the relock keys for the firmware on extant builds, since there’s a reasonable overlap between people who want to go to a phone for getting outside the Google / Apple ecosystems and people who want to get their already extant devices to last.
I swear, the low quality posts with scam-like titles one sees in the Fediverse these days…
Yeah, unlike apple fanbois everywhere using whatabouitism to justify their shitty stance /s
Just buy a used phone ffs or at keast encourage those going this way so e/os can grow big enough to work with a manufacturer to make their own phone
Graphene is doing this already. They announced a partnership with an Android OEM to produce a GrapheneOS phone some time in 2027.
Every single time GOS comes up. Every. Single. Fucking. time.
Do you people forget that buying used is an option?
I mentioned it in a comment below. But that also depends on how the used market works where you live. To buy something privacy-minded used, I’d have to buy it either from a meatspace vendor I can check myself, or from an online vendor that will take cash in split payments and has a verifiable history in the platforms I trust.
“But but but Google is the best, you don’t understand!!!”
GrapheneOS has amazing marketing. They have convinced people to give more money to Google than google would ever make from selling their private information. Is GrapheneOS a Scroogle-op?
apple fanbois everywhere using whatabouitism to justify their shitty stance /s
Just buy a used phone ffs or at keast encourage those going this way so e/os can grow big enough to work with a manufacturer to make their own phone
I encourage people to buy a fairphone with eOS preinstalled. That already exists. No need to put money into the Scroogle ecosystem.
“ffs”
@onlinepersona
I prefer iodéOS over eOS
Whatever floats your goat 👌
It’s because Google devices are (ironically) one of the last few manufacturers that allows you to unlock the bootloader and provides mainstream “flagship” specs or foldy phones
If you want to go with an actual privacy focused phone, it requires a compromise somewhere
The Tensor is a capable soc but not as snappy as I would like compared to Snapdragon. Your point stands, though.
You said it! If it gets people moving towards alternatives I think its a win
Yeah, it’s very ironic isn’t it. It’s like paying Google a massive exit fee.
I mean, you could buy used, but if you are going for privacy you lose a number of assurances from doing that.
Make Google Pixels more valuable on the second hand market means even more reason for people to buy one new because they know it will still have value to some nerd. It still helps google.
¡Exactly! Like, at that point you could buy a Fairphone used, and if you do that in your own country at least you have some level of assurance that it was already working with the cellular network in-place.
Exactly. Fairphones support eOS with relocking the bootloader. You can even buy a new fairphone with eOS preinstalled.
No need to ride some hype train that benefits Scroogle.
They recently announced they’re working on support for hardware from other manufacturers:
https://www.androidauthority.com/graphene-os-major-android-oem-partnership-3606853/
But that means making new phoens and getting them to market (and then to an affordable price), right?
If I was to make a deal with a manufacturer it’d be about releasing the relock keys for the firmware on extant builds, since there’s a reasonable overlap between people who want to go to a phone for getting outside the Google / Apple ecosystems and people who want to get their already extant devices to last.