Make clear to the democratic machine that the only way to win power, is by including the left in their coalition. This means not voting for them if they don’t, but organizing and voting in primaries to try to force them to do.
This is not an imaginary track, this has worked in the past. If you have two oligarchic parties, you solve nothing by (only) voting for the least bad one.
So how about doing exactly what your said, primary better candidates… but in the mean time also not have the nazi in office crippling the nation for a few generations. Why handicap yourself?
If anyone reading this wants to make this reality, RIGHT NOW is the time to be running or supporting someone who is. Drag the establishment kicking and screaming to the left by winning primaries.
The big mistake Leftists made was not voting in the 2024 Democratic Presidential Primary. Dean Phillips was electable if you’d voted for him.
The second biggest mistake Leftists made was turning out in the NYC Mayoral Election. You just cost yourself four years of a Golden Age under Andrew Cuomo, idiots.
Explain that last part to me. Not trying to be a dick, just seriously wondering how you came to that conclusion. Unless you’re just being sarcastic, which I’m not getting. Cause I also disagree with you on Dean Phillips, though I wouldn’t even entertain listening to a reasoning on that one.
Neoliberals lose and it’s because leftists didn’t show up and vote for the right person.
Progressives win and it’s because leftists did show up and voted for the wrong person.
Cause I also disagree with you on Dean Phillips
He was an awful nobody who ran a vanity campaign that flamed out before New Hampshire polls closed. Still somehow more qualified than Biden, given that he wasn’t senile.
I’m more just flabbergasted that Biden insisted he could go all the way back in '23, closed out any serious discussion of a primary, and then dropped out after the first fucking debate. Had he put in for retirement after one term, he could at least have left the stage honorable. Instead, he queued up Harris - and the rest of the party - for crushing defeat.
Then you will need to be aware that by not voting for the more left candidate, we will have a far right government for a couple of cycles at least. This will cost lives and further entrench them into power. It is why we have what we have right now. It will also drive left leaning candidates further right because they are going to cater to the people who actually vote. A far left candidate winning is still possible eventually, but it would require a major turnout at the primaries and a lot more damage is going to be done to a lot of innocent people in the mean time. Is this a cost you are willing to pay?
So if we do something else, we would have what we have now? Have you considered that what we have now is because Democrats keep nominating terrible candidates? Why are you mad at paying the cost for what Democrats have been doing for decades?
That depend entirely on what that “something else” is. So far, all I’ve heard is either “don’t vote unless the candidate is ‘left enough’,” a vague and counter-productive inaction; or various calls to “tear down the system” with no indication of a plan how or what to replace it with.
I’m not saying the Democrats are faultless, but empowering the people that are proactively causing harm doesn’t help.
the only way to win power is by including the left in their coalition
What percentage of eligible voters define themselves as “on the left” and did not vote Democrat in the general election due to Kamala not being left enough for them?
Make clear to the democratic machine that the only way to win power, is by including the left in their coalition. This means not voting for them if they don’t, but organizing and voting in primaries to try to force them to do.
This is not an imaginary track, this has worked in the past. If you have two oligarchic parties, you solve nothing by (only) voting for the least bad one.
So how about doing exactly what your said, primary better candidates… but in the mean time also not have the nazi in office crippling the nation for a few generations. Why handicap yourself?
If anyone reading this wants to make this reality, RIGHT NOW is the time to be running or supporting someone who is. Drag the establishment kicking and screaming to the left by winning primaries.
PRIMARIES TOO!!!
it isn’t enough to yell at non progressive candidates,
The big mistake Leftists made was not voting in the 2024 Democratic Presidential Primary. Dean Phillips was electable if you’d voted for him.
The second biggest mistake Leftists made was turning out in the NYC Mayoral Election. You just cost yourself four years of a Golden Age under Andrew Cuomo, idiots.
This guy knows how to shitpost
Explain that last part to me. Not trying to be a dick, just seriously wondering how you came to that conclusion. Unless you’re just being sarcastic, which I’m not getting. Cause I also disagree with you on Dean Phillips, though I wouldn’t even entertain listening to a reasoning on that one.
I’m being sarcastic.
Neoliberals lose and it’s because leftists didn’t show up and vote for the right person.
Progressives win and it’s because leftists did show up and voted for the wrong person.
He was an awful nobody who ran a vanity campaign that flamed out before New Hampshire polls closed. Still somehow more qualified than Biden, given that he wasn’t senile.
I’m more just flabbergasted that Biden insisted he could go all the way back in '23, closed out any serious discussion of a primary, and then dropped out after the first fucking debate. Had he put in for retirement after one term, he could at least have left the stage honorable. Instead, he queued up Harris - and the rest of the party - for crushing defeat.
Then you will need to be aware that by not voting for the more left candidate, we will have a far right government for a couple of cycles at least. This will cost lives and further entrench them into power. It is why we have what we have right now. It will also drive left leaning candidates further right because they are going to cater to the people who actually vote. A far left candidate winning is still possible eventually, but it would require a major turnout at the primaries and a lot more damage is going to be done to a lot of innocent people in the mean time. Is this a cost you are willing to pay?
So if we do something else, we would have what we have now? Have you considered that what we have now is because Democrats keep nominating terrible candidates? Why are you mad at paying the cost for what Democrats have been doing for decades?
That depend entirely on what that “something else” is. So far, all I’ve heard is either “don’t vote unless the candidate is ‘left enough’,” a vague and counter-productive inaction; or various calls to “tear down the system” with no indication of a plan how or what to replace it with.
I’m not saying the Democrats are faultless, but empowering the people that are proactively causing harm doesn’t help.
What percentage of eligible voters define themselves as “on the left” and did not vote Democrat in the general election due to Kamala not being left enough for them?