First person to type paragraphs on how the only real left-wingers are people just as left-wing as they are gets an e-cookie!
The last time this was posted, it was PugJesus, and he barely agreed to my live example of Imran Khan.
And as a Pakistani, go fuck yourself. My democratically elected leader is in a jail going blind because American imperialism is universal amongst both parties, and Biden signed off on his removal without a second thought.
Even more insult to injury, Imran Khan won his election against a corrupt, voter fraud heavy, and FPTP system as a 3rd party that upset the duopoly after 70+ years.
Twice. Second time while he was in jail.
So now all that manure you people scream about RCV for 3rd parties in the US is laid barren as propaganda from the DNC & RNC to convince you never to vote independent or 3rd party.
Despite the fact the DNC was caught rigging their own primaries to ensure Bernie, a populist independent, would never win.
Twice.
Edit: Remove that Pakistani flag out of this shit excuse for a shill meme
Democrats trying to justify being in favor of genocide…
sO YoU wAnT tRuMp To wIn??
God, I sometimes wonder if some commenters on here really think that or are sponsored by Republicans
All the people on the bottom track are also on the top track they just obscure it better and we shouldn’t have to say genocide against some people is okay to support fuck off with this shit.
democrats are not leftists.
(and palestine is far from their only genocide)
You’re making the liberals upset
They’re too busy blaming voters instead of the godawful campaign. They have zero interest in understanding why there was record low turnout, and instead smugly blame pro-palestinian voices for the loss
sadly expected since victim blaming is a classic right wing deflection!
Here’s the thing about voting in primaries: DNC will try to ratfuck it 8 ways from Sunday to ensure the leftist can’t win. They partake in corrupt backroom deals to this end. Not only is this wholly undemocratic, but it drags the country further right and further into fascism as a result. Just look at the policy positions of “party leaders” Schmuck and Jeffries, these guys are right wingers at best and full on imperialist colonizers at worst.
We shouldn’t be thinking about ‘28 at all right now, we should be organizing and voting in primaries this year to ensure as many of these rotten corporate turds get flushed as possible. And while you’re at it, write a letter to party leadership and tell them to resign and get the fuck out of our way.
Based, start the grass growing now and we can sweep the shit out.
I’ve had this reccomended to me:
Don’t feed the trolls. Report and block.
The fact 200 ppl upvoted this is just staggering.
Make clear to the democratic machine that the only way to win power, is by including the left in their coalition. This means not voting for them if they don’t, but organizing and voting in primaries to try to force them to do.
This is not an imaginary track, this has worked in the past. If you have two oligarchic parties, you solve nothing by (only) voting for the least bad one.
If anyone reading this wants to make this reality, RIGHT NOW is the time to be running or supporting someone who is. Drag the establishment kicking and screaming to the left by winning primaries.
the only way to win power is by including the left in their coalition
What percentage of eligible voters define themselves as “on the left” and did not vote Democrat in the general election due to Kamala not being left enough for them?
PRIMARIES TOO!!!
it isn’t enough to yell at non progressive candidates,
PRIMARIES TOO!!!
The big mistake Leftists made was not voting in the 2024 Democratic Presidential Primary. Dean Phillips was electable if you’d voted for him.
The second biggest mistake Leftists made was turning out in the NYC Mayoral Election. You just cost yourself four years of a Golden Age under Andrew Cuomo, idiots.
You just cost yourself four years of a Golden Age under Andrew Cuomo, idiots.
This guy knows how to shitpost
Explain that last part to me. Not trying to be a dick, just seriously wondering how you came to that conclusion. Unless you’re just being sarcastic, which I’m not getting. Cause I also disagree with you on Dean Phillips, though I wouldn’t even entertain listening to a reasoning on that one.
Then you will need to be aware that by not voting for the more left candidate, we will have a far right government for a couple of cycles at least. This will cost lives and further entrench them into power. It is why we have what we have right now. It will also drive left leaning candidates further right because they are going to cater to the people who actually vote. A far left candidate winning is still possible eventually, but it would require a major turnout at the primaries and a lot more damage is going to be done to a lot of innocent people in the mean time. Is this a cost you are willing to pay?
So if we do something else, we would have what we have now? Have you considered that what we have now is because Democrats keep nominating terrible candidates? Why are you mad at paying the cost for what Democrats have been doing for decades?
Leftist infighting? Two right wing parties are not leftist infighting.
Definitely the vibe OP was talking about, but we need a massive wall of text before you can consider yourself a true leftist.
Not quite paragraphs, but I think you’re the winner!
Still better to vote for the less terrible ones
Better to burn the whole thing down than support mass murderers.
You can do both :P
And by both I mean choosing the lesser evil and doing direct action
If you do one, you won’t need to bother with the other.
But it does increase your chances of success. Make use of the little power you’re given
If anything it lowers it because centrists like all right-wingers stop caring once they’re not personally affected.
So you’d rather go against a full-on right winger or fascist?
Naivete at it’s finest. Reality is that the choices available to you will never conform to all of your desires, so in that sense, a choice is always going to be for the lesser evil. If you think there’s an action you can take to avoid making a choice at all, then reality will disabuse you of that notion as well.
It’s naive to think your only choice is to follow a binary option given to you.
No part of my statement said there were only two choices. It was in regard to all choices.
But in the context of this thread, the general election will only ever present two choices. (So vote in the primaries.)
And you haven’t yet because…?
Because it can’t be done alone, people like you who stand in the way need to be converted.
ok tankie
There are definitely people on here that keep shitting on those not as extreme as they are. Constantly complaining about liberals not being left enough.
If you dont support communism at their personal definition, you aren’t left enough
If you don’t support communism and only support socialism within capitalism , you are basically alt-right.
If you don’t support capitalism you are also not left enough (somehow. Yes it’s confusing but apparently some argue this too).
Honestly it doesn’t matter what you say. Someone on here will say you are the problem with why democracy has failed us.
Someone on here will say you are the problem with why democracy has failed us.
It’s just tiresome to see people scream “You’re the reason Trump won!” when they’re in some neon-blue district that goes 80/20 Dem every year regardless of who is on the ballot.
What wizardry does anyone think “Random Asshole On The Internet” has to swing the election? It’s like liberal candidates are Tinkerbell and they die if you don’t clap hard enough.
This is exactly the issue.
And they have such a narrow view of EVERY issue. If you can’t solve EVERYTHING all at once, in EXACTLY the way they want, you may as well be Trump and want to personally murder every Palestinian in Gaza.
“You don’t understand that guy/lady isn’t going to solve EVERYTHING so let’s not try to repair ANYTHING!”
Great illustration 10/10, will make some people here very upset
What is even more interesting is that the defeat has been vehemently declared before even the parties named their candidates.
Now excuse me, because US politics are interesting and so, but I need to make popcorn to watch my country’s electoral court respond to the police about their involvement on what is looking like the largest corruption scheme in the country’s history (what’s a really high bar) while they manage what is looking to be the second most polarized election of the century.
Well you see trying to stop a genocide or convince a candidate to come out against it incurs a risk that we might lose an election to a fascist. Luckily since the people who cared are an inconsequential number of non-voting leftists, we can be assured our refusal to take political action or even remotely try to hear out Palestinian voices will guarantee the election. Better to be safe and not try, because that way things can’t get drastically worse right? Right.
/s just in case
yhea, this post is BS. “Hey, let’s all retroactively agree to a genocide in Palestine.”
I can excuse the genocide of Palestinians funded and enabled by America, but I draw the line at bad things happening to Americans!
Would be a shame if crimes committed abroad create some kind of blowback at home.
One might go so far as to say fascism is just imperialism returning to the imperial core.
Oh well, anyway. Time to bomb Yemen again.
just sayin that I made more money during Biden’s term than any other. tRump has been horrible for me, just look at crypto going down while pedo futures are up
just sayin that I made more money during Biden’s term than any other
That’s crazy, given how the market has skyrocketed in the last year.
crypto going down
Curiously, Trump’s always been awful for crypto.
At this rate the right is about to lose that principled crypto voting bloc.
