First person to type paragraphs on how the only real left-wingers are people just as left-wing as they are gets an e-cookie!

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        You can do both :P

        And by both I mean choosing the lesser evil and doing direct action

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            But it does increase your chances of success. Make use of the little power you’re given

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              If anything it lowers it because centrists like all right-wingers stop caring once they’re not personally affected.

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                  You’re up against the same police/military either way.

                  Do you actually think a Democrat leader would support overthrowing the state/capitalism?

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                    Accelerationism won’t get you what you want, it just ensures authoritarians are in power no matter what. Historically, these people don’t care about redistributing squat.

                    Focused changed at a local level can actually bear fruit and can be scaled up. Social programs can already create an economic floor, even under our current capitalist system. For instance, Universal Basic Income implemented at a state level or federal level would solve the economic woes people encounter.

                    If you think your framework has any grounds of legitimacy you should be able to think of how to even make it possible on a small scale level.

                    What’s functionally stopping you from living on a commune on an empty dot on a map or a deserted island and making your dream of no government a reality with your peers?

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            Naivete at it’s finest. Reality is that the choices available to you will never conform to all of your desires, so in that sense, a choice is always going to be for the lesser evil. If you think there’s an action you can take to avoid making a choice at all, then reality will disabuse you of that notion as well.

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              It’s naive to think your only choice is to follow a binary option given to you.

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                That is literally how the U.S. election system works. It’s naive to think you have other options. You’re just an unrealistic idealist accomplishing nothing.

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                No part of my statement said there were only two choices. It was in regard to all choices.

                But in the context of this thread, the general election will only ever present two choices. (So vote in the primaries.)

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                  Agreed, unless the system itself is changed, at the state level, within each state, to use a different voting system. Which is worth pursuing btw, and something Alaska and Maine have both pulled off.

                  I’m so tired of seeing people getting mad about the two party system, but not even bringing up the fact we can totally change the system to use a form of Ranked Choice Voting, just by getting signatures to put it on the ballot! Well at least for over half the states this method works.

                  People’s energy would be much better spent advocating for groups like the Equal Vote Coalition or Fair Vote. Both of those groups desperately need volunteers and could actually use the social media advocacy given they are getting single digit support on Fediverse sites currently.

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          Because it can’t be done alone, people like you who stand in the way need to be converted.