First person to type paragraphs on how the only real left-wingers are people just as left-wing as they are gets an e-cookie!

  • Godric@lemmy.worldOP
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    3 hours ago

    I always have to wonder if the accounts spamming “Don’t vote for the Dems!!!” are Republican astroturfers, or just useful idiots.

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      Bots, shills, and trolls started it, but much like the anti-vax moment, the targeted idiots have taken it up and run with it.

      There are people on here who genuinely believe that Kamala would have killed so many Palestinians by now if she had been elected.

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        She promised nothing with regards to Palestine. She said she would not be fundamentally different from Joe Biden in any way. Joe Biden always granted Israel unconditional and full support. There is nothing Israel asked for during the Biden administration that they didn’t get; and I don’t think there’s any reason to think a Harris administration would change on that end.

        So why shouldn’t we believe that Kamala would kill just as many people as Trump? Because she isn’t an old decrepit white dude like the other 2 guys?

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        What justification do you have that her admin would have been anything but unconditionally supportive of Israel?

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          If they were connected to reality, they wouldn’t be utterly shocked that a party with 60% disapproval has people that think they’re shit.

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            Oy vey, I’ve experienced this for the past 30 years, in which time no Democrat has ever been able to give me a positive reason to vote for their candidate. Rather, only browbeating about how I’m to blame for Republicans winning, like I owed them my vote.

            Even though I’d never voted for a Democrat for President. Well, until Biden, and then as a sort of Hail Mary last attempt to forestall the fascist takeover that’d been openly brewing for at least those 30 years. And what’d I get for voting for the Democrat? Sweet fuck-all, that’s what! The signs were there that Biden was not the man to meet the moment, and several op-eds I read even before the 2020 election warned that his win might be a Pyrric victory. (Nor to diss the man; he’d have made a great Republican President in the 1950’s.) And then he did nothing about the COUP ATTEMPT for 2 1/2 years. I voted in-person absentee, and [REDACTED] filed a lawsuit to throw out my vote, not absentee ballots in all of Wisconsin, mind, but my county specifically, and Biden did nothing.

            Then, after I voted for Harris, and she lost, it came out in a few quiet news articles that her campaign knew that her support of the Gaza genocide would cost her some votes. To re-state that: Killing civilians in Palestine was more important to the Harris campaign than allegedly saving the U.S. Ho-lee fuck!

            So that’s it, I’m done. If the United States can’t come up with even one major political party that opposes literal genocide, is it worth saving? (And no, I don’t buy that line about protecting other marginalized groups. Once a party has decided that it’s okay to throw people under the bus, it’s only a matter of whom, which they proved almost immediately by speculating that maybe they should’ve ditched trans people.)

            Hmm, yeah, I’m triggered. Nice to have a rant now and again.

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          We’re are in active elections. Elections won’t be over until midterms barring some special elections which I’m sure there will be some.

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            Not a very useful heuristic to identify bots and paid shills, given that there’s always an election in the future, eh?

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              No actually this year has been full of elections due to all the republicans that have resigned across the nation. The shill accounts normally pick up around June or July. And honestly I haven’t seen too many recently so not sure why you’re even saying the election passed already as if there aren’t more than one and as if there was a drop off of shill accounts. It has been pretty normal lately.