“Unremoval of Piracy Communities” https://lemmy.world/post/6018317

This post needs to be updated to reflect the current policy.

Six months later, a new Removal of piracy communities announcement confirmed that these communities had been removed. !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, which was the most popular piracy community, is still inaccessible to lemmy.world users. This is misleading: users see the old post, sign-up, and then find out they cannot access the community.

Please edit the original post to include the new removal announcement.

  • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
    30·
    6 hours ago

    I had no idea this was a thing. Interesting. I can see from liability why this is not something they dont want to touch, being a general purpose instance.

    I think lemmy/fediverse needs a place where if you try and subscribe to something blocked, you get a post/page explaining why they did the thing. Its going to confuse new users otherwise.

    • jqubed@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      6 hours ago

      IIRC when it was implemented in the first place, it seemed like lemmy.world had actually been contacted by some stakeholder with a DMCA-style request, even though the community was not actually originating on lemmy.world. Explaining how federation worked to lawyers didn’t matter much and with .world at the time becoming one of the larger and more visible instances that seemed like the best way to avoid the headaches. Initially they defederated with dbzer0 entirely before developing a way to block just the community.

      • Blaze@piefed.zipEnglish
        6·
        7 hours ago

        People have had 2 years to switch to another instance. Lemmy.zip, used by OP, is nice.

        • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
          20·
          6 hours ago

          Personally I think if LW wants to ban a certain kind of content, more power to them. But they should be transparent about it.

          If they’ve said they’ll unban pirate content, then pirate content should be allowed. If they want it banned, fine, but make a statement clarifying that that is the case.

          OP is doing good work by pointing this out.

          • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
            1·
            3 hours ago

            Then they’re the same as the Reddit users who refuse to move. It’s not hard to move to a different Lemmy/PieFed instance, that’s our strength. You can export your account data and import it to your new instance so your subscriptions transfer.

              • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
                1·
                2 hours ago

                Sure but IDK that just doesn’t seem important. That’s the same issue we had switching from Reddit to Lemmy. My Reddit posts aren’t gone and neither are my programming.dev posts, I’m here on retrolemmy.com now and I’m fine leaving my old account behind. If I need to edit an old post then I’ll open programming.dev but that doesn’t bother me.

                • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  54 minutes ago

                  IDK that just doesn’t seem important.

                  I’m fine leaving my old account behind.

                  Then we have different viewpoints. I’m very much NOT ok with leaving my old account behind.

                  If AI hadn’t banned me on reddit, I’d be much happier over there. I’d have my old account, and all my post history going back 10 years. Which by this point would be more like 12 or 13 years.

                  It’s not important to you, but it’s important to me. Just because youhave an opinion doesn’t make it “the right way”. Everyone can have different opinions, and thats ok.

                  Literally 3 months after I got here, and started figuring out how the fediverse worked, I was calling for changes. Quite frankly, what I thought the fediverse was is a lot cooler than what it actually is.

                  I can post a picture here from pixelfed, but it’s no different than posting a picture from imgur.

                  So the account history is all I have to look back at.

      • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        9·
        6 hours ago

        Hi, I am from an instance no one ever seems to talk about and when reading these kinds of threads I am glad I made that choice. 😁

        • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth
          5·
          4 hours ago

          To be fair to others less knowledgeable, I’ve seen first hand someone admitting they joined .ml because it was the first/largest server they learned about, not knowing it was a marxist-leninist joint, and they were asking how to transfer their account up on outta there. That was a fun thread lol

          My point is, just like we can’t judge people based on their national origin, we shouldn’t judge people from their home instance. But as a general rule, yeah .ml reeks lol

          • FundMECFS@anarchist.nexusEnglish
            1·
            3 hours ago

            I agree but think its also different depending on context.

            Like if someone has thousands of contributions and their account is 6 months + old. Hell yeah I can judge them on the instance they use. Because they have had plenty of time and opportunity to learn and change.

            A new user on the otherhand. I won’t.

            I myself have both a defunct world and ML account from a long time ago when I first joined the threadiverse.