In my opinion genuine wikis provide a much nicer user experience, than Fandom wikis.
Fandom sucks. Here are two tools you will find useful:
- Indie Wiki Buddy - This automatically redirects you away from Fandom and to an external wiki (e.g. Minecraft Wiki, Tardis Wiki, etc.)
- Breezewiki - This is a private and sans-bullshit frontend for Fandom, written in Racket and created by Cadence Ember (they are also the creator of CloudTube, Bibliogram, and the YouTube Annotation Archive, among other contributions). Indie Wiki Buddy can redirect to Breezewiki if an indie equivalent doesn’t exist.
Fandom would have those old moving pop up windows if they could/were still a thing.
They basically do with this annoying videos that follow you as you scroll through the page.
Can’t stand those. Auto play, unclosable
Get a content blocker that lets you maintain a whitelist of sites that don’t have their content muted and paused by default. I don’t even let YouTube autoplay.
Idk. UBlock doesn’t seem to get them on mobile.
I remember the League of Legends wiki moved away from Fandom to another wiki farm called Weird Gloop (run by the Runescape Wiki people) and the publisher of League of Legends sponsored the move. Fandom’s rules say that you are not allowed to destroy the old wiki when you move, so the admins changed the font to Comic Sans on the Fandom wiki.
Weird Gloop are great, the RuneScape wikis are the best there is. They also host the wikis for Minecraft, Balatro, Vampire Survivors, Warframe, Smite 2 and Hytale.
When I played Guild Wars 2 it took me a while to start using the wiki. Once I did though, I noticed they had literally API integration between the wiki and the game. The wiki would track your progress on quests to help you move forward, same with boss rotations and WvW.
It was probably the best part of the game
This makes me wanna try GW2 again.
You can do this in OSRS with a plugin! It shows, quest progess, collected items, achievements made etc
Granted that should all just be a feature of the official game and website, but it’s better than nothing.
he official game and website
Rather have them have an api, so many official websites and apps stop being maintained when the game stops making money
I remember when the Minecraft wiki moved, people were griefing the fandom pages by replacing all images with a Minecraft donkey.
Uhhh… OP, Fandom uses MediaWiki. Fandom is terrible for other reasons, and not using MediaWiki anyway wouldn’t make you a “non-genuine wiki”.
There’s a good browser extension called Indie Wiki Buddy that helps redirect you from Fandom to independent fan wikis, which in my experience are almost always better.
I think OP is trying to say that you should host your own wiki using MediaWiki instead of using Fandom. Your comment is like if someone said “You should use a Linux phone to get away from Google and Apple” and you responded with “Android uses Linux”.
Your comment is like if someone said “You should use a Linux phone to get away from Google and Apple” and you responded with “Android uses Linux”.
I promise as someone extensively familiar with MediaWiki who even administrates an indie wiki that this comparison makes absolutely no sense, and I think you’re reaching to make the OP’s meme make any actual sense when it clearly doesn’t. If we’re reaching into Linux, this is more (still somewhat tenuously) akin to someone telling Ubuntu users that they’re not using “real Linux”. They lack the language to express Ubuntu’s actual problems which really exist and so resort to vacuous gatekeeping instead.
Edit: Actually, the analogy doesn’t even get base enough to describe that. It’s like a meme where Geordi rejects the Ubuntu logo and accepts the Tux logo, and then under that is the OP trying to argue that Ubuntu isn’t a “genuine” operating system.
The point of this meme is me/us as the mere users of a website. Not from a hosting or administration perspective.
There is no gatekeeping, just a statement of a preference, as a user.
There is no gatekeeping
Definitionally there is, because you called Fandom wikis “non-genuine wikis”. “genuine wikis provide a much nicer user experience than Fandom wikis”. That’s quintessential gatekeeping, and it’s incorrect gatekeeping at that, because they provably are.
just a statement of a preference, as a user.
We both agree here. You are correct to want to use platforms other than Fandom. Fandom sucks for editors, sucks for readers, and sucks for fan communities; I could write an essay explaining why. I understand the sentiment behind the meme completely; it’s the way it arrives at the sentiment that’s totally nonsensical. You’ve made no coherent point and spread misinformation. You don’t have to make a point to express your opinion, but it’s clear you tried to.
I am very well aware, that Fandom is based on MediaWiki. That, however, does not weaken my point at all. tsg
“Touch some grass”, if anyone else is unfamiliar with the tla. Rather rude, since that is not even slightly clear in the original meme and I appreciated the extra information…
The additional info is not the issue, that I have with this comment, and is instead greatly appreciated. But the way it is communicated is also somewhat rude.
That, however, does not weaken my point at all.
It invalidates your point. You’re trying to gatekeep what does and does not constitute a “wiki” while clearly having no idea what that word means. And if you knew Fandom uses MediaWiki, it clearly doesn’t show in your meme, because a) Fandom is powered by MediaWiki so it’s not mutually exclusive like Geordi implies, and b) like Fandom, most indie wikis in my experience don’t use the “Powered by MediaWiki” icon either (just in case you’d go with that bizarre, last-ditch non sequitur of an argument). Your meme is nonsense if Fandom uses MediaWiki, which it does.
As for “genuine wiki”, Fandom clearly meets all the points for being one – let alone that it literally uses the de facto wiki software. I’ll let Wikipedia speak for this as an expert witness:
A wiki is a form of hypertext publication ✅ on the internet ✅ which is collaboratively edited ✅ and managed by its audience ✅ directly through a web browser. ✅ A typical wiki contains multiple pages ✅ that can either be edited by the public ✅ or limited to use within an organization for maintaining its internal knowledge base. Wikis are powered by wiki software, ✅ also known as wiki engines. Being a form of content management system, these differ from other web-based systems such as blog software or static site generators in that the content is created without any defined owner or leader. ✅ Wikis have little inherent structure, ✅ allowing one to emerge according to the needs of the users. ✅ Wiki engines usually allow content to be written using a lightweight markup language ✅ and sometimes edited with the help of a rich-text editor. ✅
It doesn’t seem like you’re “well aware” of anything you’re talking about except the general (correct) sentiment that Fandom sucks. Fandom sucks for so many reasons that it’s legitimately impressive you managed to miss all of them while making this meme. I was being earnestly polite when you told me to touch grass, so since even that is apparently escalatory, I’ll just… not.
Buddy, this is a simple joke.
Nothing more.
Buddy, this is a joke.
This is what reading on there feels like with 90% (on mobile, unironically) screen space used up for ads.
Dropping this here as well, really cool tool.
Do not play Minecraft, but I am so glad they broke free last year or so as well.
Shout out to guild wars for hosting their wikis on their official site. No ads, lightning fast, and still run by community members. I don’t know why more companies don’t do it.
Because most companies doesn’t even have a wikis on, these are manage and run by fans.
Fandom did such a horrible job with the Path of Exile wiki that the game fans not only rebuilt it elsewhere but got Grinding Gear Games to host it
Warframe basically did the same thing, fandom is so insufferable
when the Minecraft wiki moved off of fandom, their new site was so much faster
Miraheze is also great if you need it hosted
Man what an unfortunate name. Looks good but hard to remember and pronounce.
Wikia.
Stop validating their illegitimate claim on a word that they have no right to, and thoroughly exploit and degrade with their continued spew.
Wikia.
