I think OP is trying to say that you should host your own wiki using MediaWiki instead of using Fandom. Your comment is like if someone said “You should use a Linux phone to get away from Google and Apple” and you responded with “Android uses Linux”.
Your comment is like if someone said “You should use a Linux phone to get away from Google and Apple” and you responded with “Android uses Linux”.
I promise as someone extensively familiar with MediaWiki who even administrates an indie wiki that this comparison makes absolutely no sense, and I think you’re reaching to make the OP’s meme make any actual sense when it clearly doesn’t. If we’re reaching into Linux, this is more (still somewhat tenuously) akin to someone telling Ubuntu users that they’re not using “real Linux”. They lack the language to express Ubuntu’s actual problems which really exist and so resort to vacuous gatekeeping instead.
Edit: Actually, the analogy doesn’t even get base enough to describe that. It’s like a meme where Geordi rejects the Ubuntu logo and accepts the Tux logo, and then under that is the OP trying to argue that Ubuntu isn’t a “genuine” operating system.
Definitionally there is, because you called Fandom wikis “non-genuine wikis”. “genuine wikis provide a much nicer user experience than Fandom wikis”. That’s quintessential gatekeeping, and it’s incorrect gatekeeping at that, because they provably are.
just a statement of a preference, as a user.
We both agree here. You are correct to want to use platforms other than Fandom. Fandom sucks for editors, sucks for readers, and sucks for fan communities; I could write an essay explaining why. I understand the sentiment behind the meme completely; it’s the way it arrives at the sentiment that’s totally nonsensical. You’ve made no coherent point and spread misinformation. You don’t have to make a point to express your opinion, but it’s clear you tried to.
“Touch some grass”, if anyone else is unfamiliar with the tla. Rather rude, since that is not even slightly clear in the original meme and I appreciated the extra information…
The additional info is not the issue, that I have with this comment, and is instead greatly appreciated.
But the way it is communicated is also somewhat rude.
It invalidates your point. You’re trying to gatekeep what does and does not constitute a “wiki” while clearly having no idea what that word means. And if you knew Fandom uses MediaWiki, it clearly doesn’t show in your meme, because a) Fandom is powered by MediaWiki so it’s not mutually exclusive like Geordi implies, and b) like Fandom, most indie wikis in my experience don’t use the “Powered by MediaWiki” icon either (just in case you’d go with that bizarre, last-ditch non sequitur of an argument). Your meme is nonsense if Fandom uses MediaWiki, which it does.
As for “genuine wiki”, Fandom clearly meets all the points for being one – let alone that it literally uses the de facto wiki software. I’ll let Wikipedia speak for this as an expert witness:
A wiki is a form of hypertext publication ✅ on the internet ✅ which is collaboratively edited ✅ and managed by its audience ✅ directly through a web browser. ✅ A typical wiki contains multiple pages ✅ that can either be edited by the public ✅ or limited to use within an organization for maintaining its internal knowledge base. Wikis are powered by wiki software, ✅ also known as wiki engines. Being a form of content management system, these differ from other web-based systems such as blog software or static site generators in that the content is created without any defined owner or leader. ✅ Wikis have little inherent structure, ✅ allowing one to emerge according to the needs of the users. ✅ Wiki engines usually allow content to be written using a lightweight markup language ✅ and sometimes edited with the help of a rich-text editor. ✅
It doesn’t seem like you’re “well aware” of anything you’re talking about except the general (correct) sentiment that Fandom sucks. Fandom sucks for so many reasons that it’s legitimately impressive you managed to miss all of them while making this meme. I was being earnestly polite when you told me to touch grass, so since even that is apparently escalatory, I’ll just… not.
Uhhh… OP, Fandom uses MediaWiki. Fandom is terrible for other reasons, and not using MediaWiki anyway wouldn’t make you a “non-genuine wiki”.
There’s a good browser extension called Indie Wiki Buddy that helps redirect you from Fandom to independent fan wikis, which in my experience are almost always better.
I think OP is trying to say that you should host your own wiki using MediaWiki instead of using Fandom. Your comment is like if someone said “You should use a Linux phone to get away from Google and Apple” and you responded with “Android uses Linux”.
I promise as someone extensively familiar with MediaWiki who even administrates an indie wiki that this comparison makes absolutely no sense, and I think you’re reaching to make the OP’s meme make any actual sense when it clearly doesn’t. If we’re reaching into Linux, this is more (still somewhat tenuously) akin to someone telling Ubuntu users that they’re not using “real Linux”. They lack the language to express Ubuntu’s actual problems which really exist and so resort to vacuous gatekeeping instead.
Edit: Actually, the analogy doesn’t even get base enough to describe that. It’s like a meme where Geordi rejects the Ubuntu logo and accepts the Tux logo, and then under that is the OP trying to argue that Ubuntu isn’t a “genuine” operating system.
The point of this meme is me/us as the mere users of a website. Not from a hosting or administration perspective.
There is no gatekeeping, just a statement of a preference, as a user.
Definitionally there is, because you called Fandom wikis “non-genuine wikis”. “genuine wikis provide a much nicer user experience than Fandom wikis”. That’s quintessential gatekeeping, and it’s incorrect gatekeeping at that, because they provably are.
We both agree here. You are correct to want to use platforms other than Fandom. Fandom sucks for editors, sucks for readers, and sucks for fan communities; I could write an essay explaining why. I understand the sentiment behind the meme completely; it’s the way it arrives at the sentiment that’s totally nonsensical. You’ve made no coherent point and spread misinformation. You don’t have to make a point to express your opinion, but it’s clear you tried to.
I am very well aware, that Fandom is based on MediaWiki. That, however, does not weaken my point at all. tsg
“Touch some grass”, if anyone else is unfamiliar with the tla. Rather rude, since that is not even slightly clear in the original meme and I appreciated the extra information…
The additional info is not the issue, that I have with this comment, and is instead greatly appreciated. But the way it is communicated is also somewhat rude.
You are here arguing with people defending a meme you found. Look in the mirror when you tell others to touch grass; god damn, twin.
It invalidates your point. You’re trying to gatekeep what does and does not constitute a “wiki” while clearly having no idea what that word means. And if you knew Fandom uses MediaWiki, it clearly doesn’t show in your meme, because a) Fandom is powered by MediaWiki so it’s not mutually exclusive like Geordi implies, and b) like Fandom, most indie wikis in my experience don’t use the “Powered by MediaWiki” icon either (just in case you’d go with that bizarre, last-ditch non sequitur of an argument). Your meme is nonsense if Fandom uses MediaWiki, which it does.
As for “genuine wiki”, Fandom clearly meets all the points for being one – let alone that it literally uses the de facto wiki software. I’ll let Wikipedia speak for this as an expert witness:
It doesn’t seem like you’re “well aware” of anything you’re talking about except the general (correct) sentiment that Fandom sucks. Fandom sucks for so many reasons that it’s legitimately impressive you managed to miss all of them while making this meme. I was being earnestly polite when you told me to touch grass, so since even that is apparently escalatory, I’ll just… not.
Buddy, this is a simple joke.
Nothing more.