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cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/59613920

Mullvad also pointed to other instances of alleged attempts to “escalate censorship and mass surveillance” in the UK, citing efforts to force Apple to install backdoors in its end-to-end encrypted cloud service, proposals that could introduce “client-side scanning and government spyware on all UK phones”, and government plans to fast-track legislation requiring identity verification for VPN use.

  • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 hours ago

    Depends on locations but typically in urban areas (which is where most people live now, since the rural flight of the 20th) there are multiple ISPs to chose from.

    we have multiple here but there’s no competition in this regard. they are competing in speed, prices and also feelings by deceptive ads, but not in privacy. like, I wouldn’t install the apps of any of them to my phone, because they are full of data mining code.

    but there are also things they just couldn’t avoid: law requires them to be keeping logs, and generally they have a stronger obligation for local laws, because the local government can threaten local businesses much more efficiently.

    so, most of the cases you can choose from a few options, but regarding privacy… not much variety. you can’t even know before or even after subscribing to them, because how will you check.

    VPNs are different because you can choose from thousands (though most are shit), and the claims of better ones will be proven by court.

    another point, is that normally your traffic goes unencrypted through ISP equipment of whatever brands. cisco, huawei, ubiquiti, tplink, whatever. what’s even worse, personally I wouldn’t trust any that is cloud controlled through the manufacturer and there’s many brands like that from the USA even.
    the ISP bought equipment that they evaluated by whether does it work, not forensically. they probably also inherited a lot of it from another company. a lot of it doesn’t receive security patches anymore, because they are old equipment that still work fine, but it doesn’t matter because they don’t even run the last released patches either.
    all the while reputable VPN services are more careful about whos stuff they trust with providing their services.

    Most customers are just too lazy to bother picking anything but the most popular choices.

    thats right. and they don’t even know what should they be looking out for. but honestly me neither, none of the ISPs seem to be good guys, because there’s nothing in it for them.

    TL;DR: most people can actually chose their ISPs.

    most people can also choose a smartphone brand, they can also choose between facebook and twitter. it was not my point.

    my point is that VPNs can actually give something more that local ISPs can’t, and provide value that way.