- cross-posted to:
- memes@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- memes@lemmy.ml
cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7760707
“Death to Germany because they say their reason for existing is to support ‘Israel’[1]? That’s genocidal against Germans.”
Sorry, but I don’t care about your colonizer fragility.
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Not a joke, they call this “Staatsräson”. ↩︎







There is no such thing as anti-white racism.
You aint a real leftist unless you swallow every sabotage stance ever invented by COINTELPRO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Hoc_Committee_for_a_Marxist-Leninist_Party
- An Undercover CIA Agent
The fact that “white” once excluded “Irish” under certain conditions doesn’t make anti-white racism real.
White people can be racist against white skin people cause the concept of race is social construct designed by oppressors to colonize and oppress anyone.
Ireland was colonized by the British since the early 12th century. Irish people have faced inherent power systems that was only in favor of the British.
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/unthinkable-are-irish-people-becoming-less-black-1.2453237
Or how Eastern Europeans faced violence during Brexit.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eastern-europe-brexit_uk_5accc2f5e4b0152082fdd6c8?ec_carp=7211846813776112354
Nigel Farage’s very racist Reform Party has a legitimate shot at forming the next UK government. Nigel Farage has gone on the record displaying their hatred for Eastern Europeans.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nigel-farage-caught-saying-eastern-europeans-are-eating-our-swans-in-royal-parks-what-did-he-mean/ar-AA1NguYf
Which the hateful allegation of eating swans and carps is the same thing as JD Vance claiming that Haitians are eating cats and dogs.
Or how about Untermensch was a slur to mean to anyone of Eastern European descent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany
Or Finnish people in immigrant to the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States#Finnish_Americans
Italians had no protection under the law in the US for a period of time. Italians were considered to be white and we’re not given any protection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States#Italian_Americans
This is why racism is a social construct created by the ruling class. The definition of whiteness can and will change at the behest of the ruling class to justify oppressing anyone who doesn’t fit the the parameters of being white. Even though historically Irish, Eastern Europeans, Finnish, and Italians have skin color that is white and are not considered white.
This is true, but the distinction between “white people” and “white skin people” makes it clear that the boundaries of “white people” are in effect defined by who is not a target of racism. It is, as you say, a social construct.
Frankly I usually just default to saying fuck the Anglo-Saxons.
A lot of “white” people aren’t Anglo-Saxons, though.
That’s my point.
This makes no sense. A lot of non Anglo-Saxons are as white as Anglo-Saxons. As I said:
If I understand your point correctly, it’s that some people who are sometimes in the category of “white” can be victims of racism in some situations because they are on the margins of whiteness. That’s true, but it doesn’t make racism against white people real.
Saying “racist” things about white people is not racist against those on the margins of whiteness who are sometimes conditionally white, such as Slavic people. You can be racist against Slavic people in certain contexts by saying racist things about Slavic people (and generally in those contexts Slavic people are not treated as “white” because that’s what “white” means), but not by saying “racist” things about white people (which isn’t possible).
You seem to be confusing who you are replying to here.
I have no idea what you are talking about here nor who you are quoting.
That’s fun when uttered in intentional irony, satirically mocking the implausibility, ignorance, bigotry, denialism, etc. But I suspect you are saying that in all seriousness.
I’m genuinely baffled that you think I or other people who have said the same thing are being ironic. As others have pointed out, racism requires power structures. Anti-white “racism” isn’t real because it has no power structure to enforce it.
not enough people know racism != bigotry
edit: okay, i guess i have to expain.
explanation of the difference between racism and bigotry
what most people call racism is a form of bigotry. in this case what they are talking about is discrimination, hate speech, and hate action based on the socially derived construct of race. what race has been throughout the ages has changed. but some contributing factors to race are phenotype (skin tone, bone structure, hair color, eye color, other physical attributes), national identity, language spoken, and religious practice. in our current age of scientific racism, the most common factors for discrimination on race are phenotype and familial belonging through genetics.
racism is influenced by bigotry, but does not require bigotry to sustain itself. usually racism is established through bigotry and then maintained through access to capital. what racism is is structural social imbalance based on race. racism requires a power shructure that favors one group based on the socially derived construct of race at the expense of another, or multiple other, groupings.
one of the most common misconceptions is that whiteness is determined by skin tone. it is not. whiteness is access to privelege in a color-coded racist society. let’s start by using the racist structure that’s most familiar to me to explain. i live in the so-called united states. i have always live in majority minority neighborhoods. the fact that this is even possible, for me to have lived my entire life in majority minority neighborhoods, suggests a problem. my current neighborhood, my neighbors are all pale. they are, however, not white. they don’t get to be white because the primary determinant of whiteness in the so-called united states because they have accents and dress a little bit differently. for this, the determiners of whiteness, the police, harass them. in otherwords, the police use their access to violence to maintain a racial hierarchy that my neighbors don’t get to benefit from because they’re not white, they’re pale.
this is what is meant when people say “you can’t be racist against white people.” if you could, that would mean they’re not white, because racism requires you having access to privelege in a racial hierarchy and whiteness is who benefits from that. you can be biggoted against white people. and in fact white people with proximity to poverty frequently endure bigotry for not performing whiteness correctly. often, because they’ve grown up in majority minority neighborhoods and have picked up social behaviors from people who do not get to be white, be that how they talk, how they dress, or even how the approach problem solving. if you’ve ever heard the term “white trash” you’ve heard a slur for poor white people that often the people around them take more offense to than they do.
edit 2: boo me all you like. @LeninWeave@lemmy.ml and i rarely agree, and in this case we do, and i’m gonna celebrate that for us. go read a book or something
someone can be prejudiced against white people but simple prejudice is not racism on its own. racism requires social structures
Of course they are serious. Because there is no such thing as anti-white racism