It definitely seems like the best competitor popping up. Familiar UI, nearly all essential features already functional, open source and self-hostable. I will say it feels like it came out of nowhere and having paid options out the gate feels a bit sketchy so I’m not completely placing any bets on it, but after trying it out for a bit I’ve been liking it far more than any other alternative.
Matrix is more mature and established but very clunky, confusing for casual users, and most clients are terrible. Stoat feels extremely dated and buggy, and it feels exactly the same as when I first tried it a year ago before the name change. Alternatives are few and far between and nothing really excels just yet, but Fluxer feels the most promising.
If a program trying to replace discord doesn’t ask for money it’s a scam. You can’t do something at that scale and not have subs or paid options.
There’s fucking nothing free in life and I’m fucking tired of people expecting and demanding everything be free. That’s how we fucking got to this point in the first place. Companies turning to ads, data gathering and other things to generate revenue. Because the number of paid users is a drop in the bucket.
Either you pony up and put money on the table. Or YOU are the fucking product and will be sold off as parts to support the stuff you use.
Bandwidth, labor, hardware all costs money. Even self hosting still costs labor.
The timing with Fluxer is very fortuitous, it’s been in development for years but only just got public which is why it seems to have come out of nowhere. I am with you on the money bit, but it comes down to how it gets used. I haven’t looked into how transparent the finances are. I understand the need to rustle up money fast in order to scale up development, as a proper Discord competitor needs to be more than a one-man effort. So I’m hoping that’s what the money will go to.
I agree that Fluxer is by far the best alternative yet, so I want to be hopeful.
I just found out about Fluxer today. I might tinker around and see if it’s any good.
It definitely seems like the best competitor popping up. Familiar UI, nearly all essential features already functional, open source and self-hostable. I will say it feels like it came out of nowhere and having paid options out the gate feels a bit sketchy so I’m not completely placing any bets on it, but after trying it out for a bit I’ve been liking it far more than any other alternative.
Matrix is more mature and established but very clunky, confusing for casual users, and most clients are terrible. Stoat feels extremely dated and buggy, and it feels exactly the same as when I first tried it a year ago before the name change. Alternatives are few and far between and nothing really excels just yet, but Fluxer feels the most promising.
If a program trying to replace discord doesn’t ask for money it’s a scam. You can’t do something at that scale and not have subs or paid options.
There’s fucking nothing free in life and I’m fucking tired of people expecting and demanding everything be free. That’s how we fucking got to this point in the first place. Companies turning to ads, data gathering and other things to generate revenue. Because the number of paid users is a drop in the bucket.
Either you pony up and put money on the table. Or YOU are the fucking product and will be sold off as parts to support the stuff you use.
Bandwidth, labor, hardware all costs money. Even self hosting still costs labor.
AND FUCK AI.
Isn’t fluxer partially LLM-coded according to the dev?
The timing with Fluxer is very fortuitous, it’s been in development for years but only just got public which is why it seems to have come out of nowhere. I am with you on the money bit, but it comes down to how it gets used. I haven’t looked into how transparent the finances are. I understand the need to rustle up money fast in order to scale up development, as a proper Discord competitor needs to be more than a one-man effort. So I’m hoping that’s what the money will go to.
I agree that Fluxer is by far the best alternative yet, so I want to be hopeful.