Fun fact: I had a career in which I was in charge of hiring other people to fill the expanding roles in my department, and was tasked with hiring ‘more of myself’, but I was not allowed to even consider people with my own qualifications.
I had a similar problem. Writing JDs for new roles I had to fill I was constantly getting them knocked back by HR.
Finally HR called me and explained that for what the job entitled we couldn’t possibly pay the market price for it.
I was like but that’s the job. Shit I thought I had made the JDs pretty succinct and austere already.
Nup apparently we’d be paying upward for $100k for a job the guys in team were only getting $60k.
As you can imagine we got a lot of applications but 90% weren’t even close to what we needed.
I was mostly self-taught, and was only allowed to consider people with at least a bachelor’s degree in a field that didn’t even really exist yet.
Same.
I personally don’t like hiring uni graduates. Their utterly lost and difficult to motivate. And almost always what they learned in university does not help whatsoever in the role. Especially dev roles.
For the work I’m involved in there a lot of exception handling. Solving the bugs and looking at the relationship between the stacks. It’s more of a puzzle.
The execs think they’re hiring someone to churn out code, and some people are better at that, like everything else. They don’t understand that they need someone that can figure out what code needs to be written, and why, and that they need someone that gets what the difference is and that there’s always someone that writes better code.
E: Also why I’m not worried about LLMs replacing devs. It ain’t just code.
Thanks. It sounds like our backgrounds are similar.
Writing JDs for new roles I had to fill I was constantly getting them knocked back by HR.
That’s awful. It feels really bad when you feel you’re standing in the way of people getting jobs. When you would normally feel like you might be a leftist, this sort of point can be easily exploited to make you feel bad, right?
I don’t even want to address the rest of your points until we go over this one because it feels so important.
I had a similar problem. Writing JDs for new roles I had to fill I was constantly getting them knocked back by HR.
Finally HR called me and explained that for what the job entitled we couldn’t possibly pay the market price for it.
I was like but that’s the job. Shit I thought I had made the JDs pretty succinct and austere already.
Nup apparently we’d be paying upward for $100k for a job the guys in team were only getting $60k.
As you can imagine we got a lot of applications but 90% weren’t even close to what we needed.
Same.
I personally don’t like hiring uni graduates. Their utterly lost and difficult to motivate. And almost always what they learned in university does not help whatsoever in the role. Especially dev roles.
For the work I’m involved in there a lot of exception handling. Solving the bugs and looking at the relationship between the stacks. It’s more of a puzzle.
I went to college to learn to code and barely did
Sorry, but this is kinda separate:
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This is literally what labour unions are for?
And it sounds like everyone doing the role for $60k should have been looking elsewhere.
The execs think they’re hiring someone to churn out code, and some people are better at that, like everything else. They don’t understand that they need someone that can figure out what code needs to be written, and why, and that they need someone that gets what the difference is and that there’s always someone that writes better code.
E: Also why I’m not worried about LLMs replacing devs. It ain’t just code.
Thanks. It sounds like our backgrounds are similar.
That’s awful. It feels really bad when you feel you’re standing in the way of people getting jobs. When you would normally feel like you might be a leftist, this sort of point can be easily exploited to make you feel bad, right?
I don’t even want to address the rest of your points until we go over this one because it feels so important.