• _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.social
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    1 day ago

    It does

    So are you arguing America was Nazi even before the immigrations+integrations of Nazis, and that it was a bonus, or that there was nothing wrong American Nazism and integration of Nazis?

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      1 day ago

      I’m saying America had Nazis before Operation Paperclip and Paperclip had no effect on American Nazis.

      All American scientists aren’t Maga. All German scientists weren’t die hard Nazis. And even if they were it was so small as to be statistically meaningless.

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        But they are no longer “statistically meaningless”: they are the major party enforcing their policies on the masses. They are the Marines, DHS, ICE, the FBI, MAGA, the Supreme Court Justices, Senate/GOP, and the donors to Trump.

        We, leftists, are saying the fascist government cannot be fixed from the inside. It’s ahistorical, it has never worked by elections, it never will.

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          But they are no longer “statistically meaningless

          Your premise is that German scientists from Operation Paperclip are the reason we have fascism today. Given that there was already an American Nazi party before Operation Paperclip and the number of German scientists brought from Germany was insignificant, that premise is false.

          are saying the fascist government cannot be fixed from the inside

          That’s a completely separate argument that has nothing to do with your claim that Operation Paperclip is why the US is fascist today.

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              23 hours ago

              Nazism in the US predated WW2. The origins of what would be called Nazism (fascism and racial purity) existed at the founding of America. What is the small font UM?

              Your claim that Operation Paperclip was the source of American Nazism is patently false.