• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    2 days ago

    They’re in the same position of ignorance about the people they’re arguing with and criticizing online as I am.

    What kind of solidarity would you like to see from me that you feel is lacking?

    • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      2 days ago

      Salamence made a post with a meme criticizing American troops who murdered people in the third world. That’s not a position of ignorance, everyone knows what happened there.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        I mean the title is clearly directed at random American civilians, not just military folks. Although yes, they are ignorant about people who are in the military too.

        • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          I mean the title is clearly directed at random American civilians, not just military folks. Although yes, they are ignorant about people who are in the military too.

          Is this seriously a reply where the first sentence attempts to avoid seeming like a defense of soldiers while the second sentence is an overt defense of soldiers?

          I mean the title is clearly directed at random American civilians

          Really? Is it that clear? Don’t soldiers vote for Kamala too?

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
            4·
            2 days ago

            I’m not defending soldiers. I do think the position that it’s wrong to join or support the US military is obviously correct. But of course that doesn’t change the fact that we have no direct knowledge of why people do these things on an individual basis. Since you brought it up I thought I’d point that out. But I feel like now we’re arguing just to argue.

            It seemed clear to me. If that wasn’t the intention then I don’t know?

            I’m just really sick of all of the finger-pointing between people about very insignificant actions people did or didn’t do that may or may not have led us to this moment. I’d rather talk about how we get out of it.

            • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              2 days ago

              I’d rather talk about how we get out of it.

              That’s fair and good, but people (especially victims of the US empire) also have a right to post about how we got here, including just to vent. The first step to fixing things is knowing how they broke. I think trying to tell Salamence that there’s shared blame here between victims and bystanders or perpetrators is counterproductive to this goal.