- cross-posted to:
- chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
- cross-posted to:
- chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7804222
You can tell this is fake because the USA soldier would shoot the child as well
cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7804222
You can tell this is fake because the USA soldier would shoot the child as well
Your entire point is that the criticism is “dumb” because it could be applied to other soldiers. Yet you are well aware of why specifically American soldiers are being criticized.
Yes. Those do not conflict.
The criticism is simultaneously both dumb and valid?
How could someone with “math” in their name be this bad at simple logic? Oh, “christian”. Got it.
Ok so now we’re just doing religious discrimination?
“Dumb” and “valid” cannot be true at the same time lmfao, that’s the simple logic I am getting at.
This ain’t rocket science. There are valid criticisms to be made. This ain’t one of them.
So you don’t consider it a valid criticism? Then what “both” things did you think were true?
Edit: am I understanding this chain correctly that you think it’s invalid because it could be made about other nations as well??
As I said in the original comment and haven’t really touched on since, it’s about the campism. This would be a valid criticism of modern “soldiering” in general, but the strong implication that this is a uniquely American problem is completely ridiculous.
If anything, the real world reputation of American soldiers in regards to civilians is among the least terrible. That’s not to say they are ethical in an absolute sense, because there have been lots of sickening incidents, for instance abu ghraib, but nothing like the reputation of Russian or even Chinese soldiers.
If there is a glaring failure in this regard that continues to be an issue, it’s with drone strikes and other weapons of mass destruction. You still don’t have practices like what Russia is doing to Kiev, but the US is still way too quick to brush off “collateral damage”. There is also a lot to criticize on how the US justifies it’s interventions. The current attack on Iran is entirely unjustified, and it has plenty of support from both parties.
On the ground though, US frontline troops are among the best trained in the world at avoiding civilian casualties and cooperating with local populations. I’m sure that’s getting worse under Hegseth, but US armed forces have been taught to question orders in ways that other great powers are reluctant to allow, especially Russia. If anyone is better it’s some European forces, but the people who embrace this cartoon would not like that point since it’s still “the west”.
I really hate campism because the real war is with the global elites. Elites spend lots of money to promote the notion that what really matters is the fight between good and bad governments, always with different ideas of which is which. Meanwhile the elites themselves have no national allegiances. Trump clearly identifies far more as a member of the global elites than as an American. The elites are the enemy the left should be fighting.
Mask-off
imperial soldiermassmurderer detectedYour kind just murdered 153 children
You’re even worse at lying than trump
Pardon me, but what exactly has the PLA done that’s so egregious, so much so that it outshines Shock and Awe, Abu Ghraib, the kangaroo court and illegal execution of Saddam Hussein, years long bloody occupation of Iraq, slaughter in Fallujah, forced labor in Fallujah, The Haditha Massacre, with all that not even being the full extent of American crimes in Iraq, and that just being Iraq alone, not speaking on Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, and all the other places the US has waged illegal wars and pillaging abroad. To be frank, What the fuck are you talking about brother?
Are you fucking serious? lmao. “I hate ‘campists’, BTW US soldiers are the most moral in the world unlike the soldiers of the evil orc people who are the enemies of the US.” You’re nothing but a racist and an American nationalist (I repeat myself). Really making it obvious why you had a problem with US soldiers specifically being criticized.
I’m (not) sorry to tell you this, but US soldiers are not more moral than Russian soldiers (a country which has done a fraction of the damage the US has done if even that) and CERTAINLY not more moral than Chinese soldiers who haven’t gone to war in 40+ years.
And before you tell me you didn’t say they were moral, you’re not fooling anyone when you try to sneak it in with arguments about comparing “reputations”.