• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    3 hours ago

    Cancer is better than Russia, so that’s no great achievement. My comment was that there is not much good to say about Russia. I notice you didn’t point out something I missed, you just went straight to an ad hominem.

    Yes, my point was both that I didn’t say the thing you claimed was racist, and that it wouldn’t have been racist anyways. No contortion, just you being wrong twice in one statement. And, again, you didn’t bother arguing the point, you just went for yet another ad hominem. That’s three if you count calling me racist.

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      Yes, my point was both that I didn’t say the thing you claimed was racist, and that it wouldn’t have been racist anyways.

      Yeah, you said they weren’t a race? So it’s not racist to call an ethnicity orcs, because ethnicity is not race? That’s barely an argument, though it is a racist one.

      And, again, you didn’t bother arguing the point, you just went for yet another ad hominem. That’s three if you count calling me racist.

      You are being racist. Even if you had said nothing else, the only reason to believe the US is acceptable in any way while Russia isn’t is racism and chauvinism. As I said above, you did say something else and it was racist.

      Cancer is better than Russia, so that’s no great achievement. My comment was that there is not much good to say about Russia. I notice you didn’t point out something I missed, you just went straight to an ad hominem.

      I suspect all this “ad hominem” nonsense is posturing, but if you really think you’re doing some great debate here, don’t bother replying. I have no interest in “debating” with an American chauvinist with a Russia obsession, which I thought I had made clear with my previous replies.

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        2 hours ago

        “Russian” is an ethnicity, but it’s also a nationality. Since we are talking specifically about Russian troops, its the nationality being criticized, not the ethnicity. Either way, I never called them orcs, I just pointed out that their behavior invites the comparison. You aren’t much for subtlety, are you?

        You are racist, lmao. Even if you had said nothing else, the only reason to believe the US is acceptable

        Back to the ad hominems, and the misquoting. I never said the US is “acceptable”. I have only spoken in favor of a single attribute of US ground troops, and I’ve been quite clear that there are many aspects of the US that are entirely unacceptable. The current war with Iran is entirely so, as have been many similar adventures.

        if you really think you’re doing some great debate here, don’t bother replying.

        There is only so “great” one can be at debating when the “arguments” are as bad and fabricated as yours.

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          Either way, I never called them orcs,

          Yeah, you just went on a whole roundabout justification of other people doing it, that’s very different. Here’s a hint: someone who wasn’t racist would have said “I never called anyone an orc” instead of doing that.

          I never said the US is “acceptable”.

          No, you’ve just made it clear that you can accept its existence and not the existence of Russia.

          I have only spoken in favor of a single attribute of US ground troops

          You uncritically repeated a single attribute of US ground troop propaganda, actually.

          Back to the ad hominems, and the misquoting.

          There is only so “great” one can be at debating when the “arguments” are as bad and fabricated as yours.

          This isn’t a “debate”, I thought I had been pretty clear about that. I don’t care to “debate” with someone who thinks America is better than Russia.

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            LOL, falling back on “That’s propaganda!”. The one lame trope you had yet to pull out. Well, calling any argument or fact that favors the west “propaganda” is also propaganda so there! I sure got you good.

            No, you’ve just made it clear that you can accept its existence and not the existence of Russia.

            It’s getting really old pointing this but, no, I didn’t say that either. If I tell someone that their behavior is unacceptable, that does not imply that their “existence” is unacceptable. To whatever extent you think I need to say it, I will say that Russia’s continued existence is just fine with me. However, I’m done with this bullshit. You win, or whatever.

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              LOL, falling back on “That’s propaganda!”. The one lame trope you had yet to pull out. Well, calling any argument or fact that favors the west “propaganda” is also propaganda so there! I sure got you good.

              OK, you can continue to believe the US has particularly moral ground troops whereas Russians are like orcs.

              However, I’m done with this bullshit. You win, or whatever.

              As I said, this isn’t a debate. But I agree with you that we have nothing to say to each other.