• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    No? The point is that taking the system over on a strictly legal basis leaves the institutions intact that can revert it to capitalism. We learned this back at the Paris Commune, and learned it again with Allende. Revolution is necessary because we must smash the state and replace it with a socialist one, we cannot merely take hold of a capitalist state and morph it into a socialist one.

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      The point is that taking the system over on a strictly legal basis

      You can’t because you don’t vote.

      You can’t otherwise because your movement can’t even coordinate (or is to apathetic) to vote; much less to storm the capital.

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        You can’t because you don’t vote.

        I did vote in the last election, and do vote. You’re insistent on lying about the position of others even after we tell you. Further, you cannot take over the system legally and resist reversion, I’d love for you to give a single counter-example to what I already explained with the Paris Commune, Allende, etc.

        You can’t otherwise because your movement can’t even coordinate (or is to apathetic) to vote; much less to storm the capital.

        That’s like saying the Marxist movement is apathetic to building the world’s largest sand castle. Storming the capital isn’t going to do anything at the moment because there isn’t a clear vanguard party and the revolutionary moment isn’t yet here, and even if everyone voted Marxist it still wouldn’t change the system.

        Are you allergic to addressing this?

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            No, and the fact that you keep making the same false accusation speaks volumes. Do you know how many days MLs give up organizing, year round?

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              Its not an accusation if you are putting this much energy into telling me why elections don’t matter. At least do the minimum there and encourage your fellow MLs to do so.