Every computer should have a hard cutoff power switch, when thrown it cuts all physical electricity.
Off means off.
The current trend of soft power buttons, parasitic loads to service impi, or management engines wol, etc is just bad practice and removes agency from the user.
Who hasn’t wanted to turn off a laptop to put it in a bag only for the shutdown to trigger an update that takes 10m whole your running late, so the laptop overheats. Or worse, the laptop turns on while in the bag!
The fact windows has a poor ability to apply updates live or In a a/b fashion is no excuse for soft poweroff buttons. Sure it’s nice to flush file system write through caches, but Ive been burned by fake power off far more then incomplete file writes.
At least for desktop computers, you have the power switch on the back of the PSU. Assuming your PSU is actually ATX compliant and not some proprietary or otherwise non-standard bullshit.
That switch is inline with the AC input and will kill power to the device completely.
This is what frustrates me about HP laptops. The biggest issues users see with them could be resolved with a hard reset to clear chip states, but you have to perform a hard reset by powering off, unplugging, and holding power for 30 seconds. A shut down or a restart doesn’t fully reset all chips and network/audio issues seem to persist.
This is one of the greatest reasons to get a MacBook. It just sleeps instantly and sleeps seemingly forever (loses about 2% overnight). No need to deal with Window’s BS hibernation mode that takes longer to wake than just powering it off and then on.
Now just to get work to let me get a MacBook as my next hardware instead of another Thinkpad (most of my work is cloud based or in the Office suite).
Every computer should have a hard cutoff power switch, when thrown it cuts all physical electricity.
Off means off.
The current trend of soft power buttons, parasitic loads to service impi, or management engines wol, etc is just bad practice and removes agency from the user.
Who hasn’t wanted to turn off a laptop to put it in a bag only for the shutdown to trigger an update that takes 10m whole your running late, so the laptop overheats. Or worse, the laptop turns on while in the bag!
The fact windows has a poor ability to apply updates live or In a a/b fashion is no excuse for soft poweroff buttons. Sure it’s nice to flush file system write through caches, but Ive been burned by fake power off far more then incomplete file writes.
This is why I’m only interested in laptops with removable batteries but it’s become rarer and rarer.
Isn’t that just force shutdown, which is usually a long press of the power button?
Even that can’t be trusted these days. The computer can be configured to come back on and connect to the network.
This is controlled in BIOS.
At least for desktop computers, you have the power switch on the back of the PSU. Assuming your PSU is actually ATX compliant and not some proprietary or otherwise non-standard bullshit.
That switch is inline with the AC input and will kill power to the device completely.
I will agree to your idea not for any practical reason, but because I miss the delicious “CHLUNK” of an old AT-Clone Computer.
Just hold the power button on your laptop for a few seconds and you’ll get hard power off.
This is what frustrates me about HP laptops. The biggest issues users see with them could be resolved with a hard reset to clear chip states, but you have to perform a hard reset by powering off, unplugging, and holding power for 30 seconds. A shut down or a restart doesn’t fully reset all chips and network/audio issues seem to persist.
This is one of the greatest reasons to get a MacBook. It just sleeps instantly and sleeps seemingly forever (loses about 2% overnight). No need to deal with Window’s BS hibernation mode that takes longer to wake than just powering it off and then on.
Now just to get work to let me get a MacBook as my next hardware instead of another Thinkpad (most of my work is cloud based or in the Office suite).