If I understand you correctly in the part you talk about labor, robotics and AI, it reminds me of what was said by capitalists when automations started being employed in factories, meaning many, many decades ago.

At the time the capitalist narrative was saying to workers stuff like “we know you work hard, but thanks to the technological advancements in automations your children will work less and have a better life”. We very well know this never happened, only the rich got richer, to the detriment of everybody else and the planet as a whole.

So, allow me to say, this approach is not new.

I was wondering if anyone here has read it as well. And what your take is.

Personally, I will not read it because:

Meet the authors

James Arbib is a technology investor and the founder of Tellus Mater, an independent philanthropic foundation dedicated to exploring the impacts of disruptive technology and its potential for solving some of the world’s most challenging problems.

Tony Seba is a world-renowned thought leader, author, speaker, educator, investor and Silicon Valley entrepreneur.

In relation to the content of the book, I wouldn’t be too surprised if these two capitalists suggest misleading technological “solutions” to a problem that is not technological in nature, but systemic. Meaning, the problem is the eternal growth of the capitalist system on a finite planet, and there is no techno-fix for that. Also, I’m pretty sure they are making baseless claims about humans and human societies to back their proposals.

Anyways, now that I said all that, may I suggest another reading? Totally free and priceless :)

What is Solarpunk?

I just realised that we should also keep in mind that the time-frame of this study is several decades, so we are talking about about an average through the decades.

What you said reminded me of an argument that I recently heard and found quite interesting, as well as accurate.

It was saying that the developing countries are actually the colonising ones because they got prosperous from ferociously extracting the resources from the places they colonised. In the so-called “post colonial era”, theses western countries kept their development through economic exploitation of the same areas and people.

Edit: So the developed countries, should actually be called developing instead. And what we call now developing countries should be called exploited, abused or something similar.

Ok so it looks like they try to shift to the sociocracy model.

Coincidentally, I have a friend who worked for some years in a company that was trying to shift from a typical hierarchical structure to a co-op with a horizontal decision-making processes, using sociocracy. For them, and to my understanding, it was not going great. They actually kinda kept replicating the typically centralised structure for too long but this time using the “circles” deriving from sociocracy. That said, maybe by now they have managed to move on from this transitional phase, but I don’t know since my friend doesn’t work there anymore. That said, from the conversations we had, I got the understanding that there has been successful approaches in other coops, in the sense that they had achieved consent-based decision-making processes.

This could be a promising project. If anyone knows what is the decision-making processes within this community, could you share a link?

My knowledge is very limited in coding and since this is the first time I hear the term vibecoding, I don’t think I can answer your question just by reading the wiki you linked. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s great you did link it!

So I thought of sharing one myself. Perhaps it could help you make up your mind on how to answer your question? I dunno, I suppose at least, it could be a good starting point, and I hope you totally enjoy reading it!

A Solarpunk Manifesto

You can find some relevant book titles in this audiobook community and download them from Anna’s Archive

I loved Braiding Sweetgrass and now can’t wait to check out the Moss one.

I don’t agree with this article, but I really appreciate the work of one historian mentioned at the end in the Reference section.

Fernand Braudel decided to take a look at history from a different point of view, especially in relation to time. Instead of talking about specific dates of big events and big names, he decided to look at the conditions of everyday life of common people (food, shelter, human interactions, work etc) who lived around the time that these big events happened, and draw conclusions taking these factors into consideration.

For example one of his takes on why capitalism was created in Europe and not Asia or the Americas, is related to dietary habits, cultivation and transportation methods of wheat, rice and corn respectively.

I’m not too sure of the english title of the book I’m talking about, cause I read it in french and the title was very different to the ones I find in english (La dynamique du capitalism).

How do you treat PTSD - Post Traumatic Stress Disorder- when there is no “post”. When you’re in a place like Palestine, where the trauma is ongoing and inter-generational.

According to your sayings, you appreciate personal attacks.

The way I see things, pseudo-rational arguments don’t make a position justifiable.

Hi @Tiresia, I have to admitt what I get from your response is a lot of anger over something basically quite simple:

Please don’t make this a personal attack.

It doesn’t seem to me like a matter of rules or whatever, and it looks like a good suggestion as well. Don’t you think?

This is a great project. I used to love arduino and supported them on principle. Until I stumbled on this:

The Untold History of Arduino by Hernando Barragán

Then I started using elegoo and a teensy, and they were very good for what I was doing. I am sure there are plenty of other alternatives as well.

Here is a link to watch it: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8g8x54