Thanks I’ll dig deeper. I guess I do want something like n8n but ideally :

• no AI
• self hosted FLOSS services first, if possibly only (can just be filters like F-Droid has)
• no need for no-code / low-code, code is great

which makes me wonder what they do provide, e.g. is it mostly indexing existing plugins and then some scaffolding for non coders?

Do you have a specific use case for two containers that you want to talk to each other?

Sure, for example once a Jitsi Meet meeting ends (more than 1 person in a room in, everybody gone), save the chat log to CopyParty e.g. WebDAV push to /meetingname_date.txt would be enough to be useful. It’s something we tend to do manually on a regular basis.

road map of what you are trying to accomplish before hand, and run it by the dev teams.

Yes no rush and I can code so I would be able to test before suggesting anything.

As I’m thinking about it, I wonder if your solution might be automation?

I don’t touch AI but I do think conventions, e.g. not “just” an API but SWAGGER, specific filesystem on mountpoints, etc could facilitate this.

Indeed and for PeerTube for example it has an API, cf https://docs.joinpeertube.org/api-rest-reference.html which I did use. It also provides SWAGGER so that could facilitate integration with others services also providing APIs. I was starting to think that the meta service could have read only public only token generated for each new service and provide a SWAGGER endpoint to facilitate using the API of more than 1 service.

Thanks, that’s indeed exactly the kind of thing I’m looking for “The authentication glue you need.” but even more generalized than that, e.g. just “the glue you need.” not solely for authentication.

Edit: to clarify and coming back after leaving few other comments, the 1 thing authentik has is that it is a cross-service need, namely nearly all services do need authentication AND, probably consequence of that, there are conventions and standards already in place, e.g. SAML, OAuth2/OIDC, LDAP, Auth0. So that makes everything much easier.

most of my services are an island to themselves

same

and I like it that way.

… well that’s the part I’m challenging. I was thinking like this but I’m wondering if that could be improved.

PS: I use ntfy and like it, that was just an example.

Yes I can relate to the process.

Any further interoperability is luck based.

Unfortunately I can relate to that, hence the question here :D

Thanks, are you saying there is a mechanism in place, e.g. does YunoHost suggests plugins or integrations for services it manages?

eh… yes thanks and I do actually have ntfy (I also warmly recommend it) but this was just an example.

Well I do have Home Assistant, been running it for years, but HA is solely for … well home assisting (or IoT). HA as integrations but let’s say I want to use HA with … any of my other services, e.g. CopyParty to maybe store logs and makes them available or PeerTube to have videos from my camera, I can look at HA integrations, or CopyParty… issues maybe, or PeerTube npm registry.

My point being that HA is a good example with integrations but it’s just one example. If I do take this example seriously though, is there a mechanism beside manual search in the list of integration that would list integrations with my services directly?

Technically speaking hand tracking can be done with just computer vision, no dedicated tracking (like Leap Motion) required even though it’s typical better. So yes, it could be done but there is not promise of it so it’d be a risky bet.

VR proper content like Half-life: Alyx, here my comment is about producing content, not using the existing Steam catalogue. I love Alyx, I need more. If I get another headsets (I have several) but nothing amazing to put on it, “just” the usual then I’m not as excited.

I did stream, actually Alyx in 2020 (half a decade ago!) via Alvr https://twitter-archive.benetou.fr/utopiah/status/1243659207783649281/ so… that’s definitely feasible, definitely not new. It’s a good principle and if it helps keep the device price low, in fact VERY low, then it’s great. If it’s still relatively expensive then it won’t feel great to buy a device in 2026 with specs comparable to something that was out few years priors even if in practice it might be “good enough” standalone with some specific games. The Steam Deck didn’t really have that problem because there was no real alternatives. Here I’d argue it’s a bit different with Quest, Pico, Lynx but also higher ends like Vision Pro (which you can stream Steam games to, as I did also last year) or the newer Samsung Galaxy XR.

Regarding updates… yes, in theory, in practice I best most of use don’t have accessories for our Index “Frunk”. AFAICT also most people didn’t upgrade their Deck but rather bought the newer model. They do hint at quite a few upgrades or modules in the video though. Love to see how repairable it will be and no doubt it should be way better than most alternatives!

Cubism, mini golf or any game where you build something in the space, Laser Dance, all the sketching and sketching apps, etc. It’s not for everyone but feels like such a low hanging fruit when all the rest is there.

Me too, they just keep on investing in interrop and I’m all for that.

Right, better be safe than sorry. The important point though IMHO that with Proton and now FEX they have shown that compatibility layers are not that costly or complex :

• try to make it run
• nothing works
• note precisely what doesn’t, try a way
• one thing work and it’s slow as heck
• understand why
• 2 things now work, one of them is fast, the other slow
• rinse&repeat until it’s good enough to crowd source quality control to others

So… I don’t want to diminish how amazing that is, technically speaking, but we now all know it’s feasible. Initially it looks like supporting an entire OS architecture was ridiculous (and it was, emulation was just “good enough” for games that were some years old and for much more powerful machine) until somebody tried “just” swapping or fixing the right API (i.e. DirectX) and … that was actually OK.

Again, it’s a TON of work. A lot of it also comes from Wine. But… now we now why it works and how to do that. Even if Valve were to lock SteamOS, that knowledge wouldn’t be lost on the broader community.

PS: they briefly mention this during the Tested video (sorry YouTube only) on the new hardware.

Sadly agree. I’ve been waiting for years, claiming I’d buy whatever they sell… but honestly right now this would feel like a donation more than something I eagerly want, even less need.

FWIW I’m also NOT the market, I have … I don’t actually know how many but at least 5 XR headsets.

FWIW been using SteamOS on the SteamDeck for ~3 years now and from gaming to tinkering, no major problems. Never had to tinker hard or re-install. A couple of time it didn’t suspend properly or I had to hold power button of to force a shutdown but that’s about it.

I doubt Valve would back of from the openness because that’s their one single advantage.

True, but would one want to have a BigTech labels on their Linux distribution? Wouldn’t that kind of miss the point and bring us back to e.g. ChromeBooks?

I’m a bit too lazy to check for the entire stack I admit but I bet a lot of those actually do. Still to do a quick check Google for examples is on https://ev.kde.org/supporting-members/

AFAICT for the Frame it’s only foveated streaming, not foveated rendering.

Yeah, in theory that’s great but reminds me of my Corsair One proudly featured on my desk right now. It’s a standard PC… but that thing is so well done, so compact, it’s hard to find ways to change anything.

Also it reminds me of the frunk of the Index, super cool in theory, couple of neat projects… but I personally didn’t use it much so we’ll see.

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