But cool, one small player gives a shit. That’s about as much as the libs do 🥲 I will be fair though of all the “AES”, Cuba is probably the only somewhat tolerable one.
It’s a bit weird to compare the USSR to the west at a time when the west literally imprisoned and/or sterilized gay people.
As far as the LGBT+ struggle in China goes, conditions simply aren’t the sort that create radicals; you don’t get stonewall and eventually LGBT+ protections if cops aren’t actively harassing LGBT+ people. Oppression takes different vectors and they have a different path forward.
The USSR and China each brought hundreds of millions from barely subsisting to lifestyles comparable to the west within a single lifetime and made great progress on LGBT+ rights. Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US despite the blockade and constant attempts at destabilization.
You shouldn’t compare the USSR to a fantasy utopia, you should compare it to the actual alternatives we’ve seen in reality, Tsarist and modern Russia.
Anarchist projects have yet to manage step 0: Resist capitalist encirclement for more than like 5 minutes so we don’t have any actually existing examples to study.
The Zapatistas themselves say they’re neither anarchism or communism, but their own thing.
Historically the biggest threat to anarchist revolution hasn’t been capitalism
Weird how you’ve been convinced the guys you literally need a revolution to displace is worth less of your energy than calling other people trying to do the same thing red fash.
Cuban gays took the opportunity to leave Cuba during the 1980 Mariel boatlift. From the early stages of the massive exodus, the Government described homosexuals as part of the “scum” that needed to be discarded so the socialist society could be purified.[36] Some homosexuals were given the ultimatum of either imprisonment (or extended terms for those already imprisoned) or leaving the country, although Fidel Castro publicly denied that anyone was being forced to leave.[23]
the exodus was triggered by a sharp downturn in the Cuban economy
Given that gay sex was decriminalized in 1979, this seems questionable given that Fidel has personally apologized and takes full responsibility. I haven’t looked up if he’s done anything to compensate the victims tho.
Do you blame communism for this? It took the party decades to build support for the most recent constitutional reform, and this one only passed with a 2/3 majority.
Gulag 4 U!
Oh I’m gay, I’d be sent there already anyway.
I’m sorry lumps, you get sent to secret gulag. it’s Super gay
Cuba has LGBT+ rights enshrined in their constitution.
And the Soviets sent us to the gulags.
China likewise treats us like shit.
But cool, one small player gives a shit. That’s about as much as the libs do 🥲 I will be fair though of all the “AES”, Cuba is probably the only somewhat tolerable one.
It’s a bit weird to compare the USSR to the west at a time when the west literally imprisoned and/or sterilized gay people.
As far as the LGBT+ struggle in China goes, conditions simply aren’t the sort that create radicals; you don’t get stonewall and eventually LGBT+ protections if cops aren’t actively harassing LGBT+ people. Oppression takes different vectors and they have a different path forward.
If the USSR was only as good as the West today, it’s not worth simping over.
If socialism takes redfash cops harassing LGBT+ people before they take revolutionary action against the state, it’s not worth simping over.
Abolish the state outright and embrace Anarchy.
The USSR and China each brought hundreds of millions from barely subsisting to lifestyles comparable to the west within a single lifetime and made great progress on LGBT+ rights. Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US despite the blockade and constant attempts at destabilization.
You shouldn’t compare the USSR to a fantasy utopia, you should compare it to the actual alternatives we’ve seen in reality, Tsarist and modern Russia.
Anarchist projects have yet to manage step 0: Resist capitalist encirclement for more than like 5 minutes so we don’t have any actually existing examples to study.
Let’s compare the USSR to itself, an authoritarian shithole that sent gay men to do hard labour.
The Zapatista have been going strong for 30 years.
Revolutionary Ukraine fell to Communist backstabbing.
Historically the biggest threat to anarchist revolution hasn’t been capitalism, it’s been red fash communists.
The Zapatistas themselves say they’re neither anarchism or communism, but their own thing.
Weird how you’ve been convinced the guys you literally need a revolution to displace is worth less of your energy than calling other people trying to do the same thing red fash.
Still gays had yo flee Cuba, I wonder why…
In the 50s? Those were gusanos fleeing because their slaves revolted.
In the 90s? They were fleeing because there was a famine after the USSR collapsed and the US continued their embargo.
Between the 50s and 90s? It’d be kinda funny to flee to a place that had worse anti-gay laws.
And yet they did.
Given that gay sex was decriminalized in 1979, this seems questionable given that Fidel has personally apologized and takes full responsibility. I haven’t looked up if he’s done anything to compensate the victims tho.
Fuck out of here. Cubans have a very conservative culture. Doesn’t matter if being gay was “legal”, there was still persecution.
It’s the same way they have “legal” abortions but there is so much red tape that girls have to fly to Miami for a hookup from planned parenthood.
Do you blame communism for this? It took the party decades to build support for the most recent constitutional reform, and this one only passed with a 2/3 majority.