• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    29 days ago

    Nifty. I love the idea of risc v but fear there is no real consumer market for it that isn’t better served by arm though.

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        28 days ago

        I’m not sure that’s big enough of an advantage though. I hope it is but history shows that most people are more than willing to pay for convenience over freedom.

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          27 days ago

          Check out MilkV, they have a 64 core RISCV workstation that supports PCIe at full speeds and has NVMe and SATA slots like a completely normal x86 motherboard.

          People have gotten modern AAA games running on it.

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        28 days ago

        If you license a design from someone you’ll still be paying something. Sure there are also free implementations but they are aimed at microcontrollers, you won’t get any server class chips for free.

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        27 days ago

        I do not think it is about the royalties in most cases. I mean, RISC-V royalties may be the reason you choose it over ARM for a custom chips ( say in the bajillion SSDs you are going to ship ). Perhaps you were going to choose a different ISA for a microcontroller and the lack of license fee makes RISC-V attractive.

        For chip maker, it is the freedom that matters as that is what “convenience” means to them. And it means less risk. Look at the Qualcomm / ARM lawsuits right now. That would not happen if Qualcomm had chosen ARM.

        And if you are a chip maker licensing core designs, do you want your ISA to force you into a monopoly? ARM is more mature today but the role that ARM the company plays is being filled by multiple RISC-V suppliers ( HiFive, Milk-V, etc ). More players means more completion means more choice and probably better prices. ARM’s core business is licensing chip designs and they are about to have a lot of competition from RISC-C.

        And in the end, competition from and within the RISC-V space will drive down prices for consumers. That is what consumers are going to care about. The lower prices will not really be because of lower license fees ( though that will help of course ). And it all comes with a large and open software ecosystem. So the “convenience” will be there too.