There is no genocide of Uyghurs. Uyghur genocide atrocity propaganda akin to claiming that there’s “white genocide” in South Africa, Christian genocide in Nigeria, or that Hamas sexually assaulted babies in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.
In the case of Xinjiang, the area is crucial in the Belt and Road Initiative, so the west backed sepratist groups in order to destabilize the region. China responded with vocational programs and de-radicalization efforts, which the west then twisted into claims of “genocide.” Nevermind that the west responds to seperatism with mass violence, and thus re-education programs focused on rehabilitation are far more humane, the tool was used both for outright violence by the west into a useful narrative to feed its own citizens.
The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn’t going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this. Has there been mistreatment? Almost certainly to some degree, in a campaign as large as this. Is it genocide, be it cultural or outright? No, Uyghur culture is preserved and there are no mass killings.
You don’t have to trust me, you can check the sources I linked, which includes the UN report itself. The overwhelming majority of “independent agencies” talking about genocide in Xinjiang are glorified western think-tanks, linking back in some way to Adrian Zenz. Amnesty in particular was incredibly useful for the George W. Bush when they were one of the biggest reporters on the Nayirah Testemony and released a report about Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators. This is one of the most well-known atrocity propaganda incidents in history, and was crucial for gathering consent to kill 1 million Iraqis:
In January 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah had never been a nurse and that she was the daughter of Saud Nasser Al-Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States at the time the testimony was made. She and her father were members of the House of Sabah, the ruling family of Kuwait. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of a wider public relations campaign conducted by the Kuwaiti government-in-exile’s Citizens for a Free Kuwait, which sought to encourage American military involvement against Iraq’s occupation of Kuwait through coordination with the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton. In the aftermath of the Gulf War, the Nayirah testimony came to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1][2]
Nayirah’s story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International, which published a report about the supposed killings[3] and testimony from Kuwaiti evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, international media crews were given access to the country. A report by ABC News found that “patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait’s nurses and doctors … fled” but Iraqi troops “almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die.”[4] Later, Amnesty International USA reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the George H. W. Bush administration of “opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement.”[5]
Amnesty International is no stranger for taking flimsy evidence to support imperialist narratives.
You would be saying this while they were lying to justify the Gulf War, and you would be just as wrong then as you are now. Try actually engaging with the evidence being presented instead of plugging your ears and throwing a tantrum.
I don’t see what Marx has to do with Amnesty International’s history of supporting western atrocity propaganda to manufacture consent for war, but I have read a good bit of Marx and believe I understand him pretty well.
There is no genocide of Uyghurs. Uyghur genocide atrocity propaganda akin to claiming that there’s “white genocide” in South Africa, Christian genocide in Nigeria, or that Hamas sexually assaulted babies in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.
In the case of Xinjiang, the area is crucial in the Belt and Road Initiative, so the west backed sepratist groups in order to destabilize the region. China responded with vocational programs and de-radicalization efforts, which the west then twisted into claims of “genocide.” Nevermind that the west responds to seperatism with mass violence, and thus re-education programs focused on rehabilitation are far more humane, the tool was used both for outright violence by the west into a useful narrative to feed its own citizens.
The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report as well as (especially) China’s response to it, which eclipses it in size and detail.These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, Christian nationalist and professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does. Zenz’ work has been thoroughly discredited, yet is supported by western media for its utility in fearmongering. An example is lying about 8.7% of new IUDs as 80%, to back up claims of “forced sterilization,” from this chart:
Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn’t going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this. Has there been mistreatment? Almost certainly to some degree, in a campaign as large as this. Is it genocide, be it cultural or outright? No, Uyghur culture is preserved and there are no mass killings.
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You don’t have to trust me, you can check the sources I linked, which includes the UN report itself. The overwhelming majority of “independent agencies” talking about genocide in Xinjiang are glorified western think-tanks, linking back in some way to Adrian Zenz. Amnesty in particular was incredibly useful for the George W. Bush when they were one of the biggest reporters on the Nayirah Testemony and released a report about Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators. This is one of the most well-known atrocity propaganda incidents in history, and was crucial for gathering consent to kill 1 million Iraqis:
Amnesty International is no stranger for taking flimsy evidence to support imperialist narratives.
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You would be saying this while they were lying to justify the Gulf War, and you would be just as wrong then as you are now. Try actually engaging with the evidence being presented instead of plugging your ears and throwing a tantrum.
I don’t see what Marx has to do with Amnesty International’s history of supporting western atrocity propaganda to manufacture consent for war, but I have read a good bit of Marx and believe I understand him pretty well.
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Literally what you are doing right now to justify starting a war in Ba Sing Se
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Desperate nonsequituer, smug dismissal of facts. Liberal.
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2 years, 5 comments.
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