The whole ‘giving you energy’ thing is a myth, all it does it make you tired without it.
Absolute nonsense. I don’t drink coffee or tea, and if I drink a couple cups of coffee I end up with a hundred more tabs in the browser, two programming projects started and abandoned, a hundred notes tagged and reorganized, and a bunch of unnecessary and vaguely mean comments on Reddit and Lemmy. Possibly also a sore leg or shoulder from impromptu exercise.
You need to take control of your caffeine addiction.
The effect of caffeine is related to its structural similarity to adenosine. Adenosine is a nucleotide and is important for coding genes, but it is also used for energy in the form of ATP and as a neuromodulator and signaling molecule. When the brain is active, it consumes lots of ATP (adenosine triphosphate) as an energy source. As the ATP is used it leaves behind a byproduct, AMP (adenosine monophosphate). The longer the brain remains active, the more AMP builds up over time. Specialized adenosine receptors detect the increasing levels of AMP and send a signal that reduces alertness and increases drowsiness until eventually, you fall asleep. While sleeping, the brain has a chance to clear out the AMP and you wake up feeling alert and rested.
Because of caffeine’s structure, it binds to adenosine receptors similarly to adenosine in AMP. However, when caffeine is bound to the receptor, it doesn’t send the sleepy signal. Instead, it blocks AMP from being able to get to that spot. In this way, caffeine essentially “turns off” adenosine receptors and they cannot tell the brain it needs to rest. The more caffeine you take, the more receptors are “turned off” giving the brain the illusion that the AMP has been flushed out resulting in an alert and rested feeling as if you had just woken up.
I’m not sure about caffeine, but amphetamine-based stimulants (adderall, vyvanse, etc) stimulate the production of both dopamine (the feel good chemical) and norepinephrine, aka the anti-adrenaline neurotransmitter. That’s why it calms down people with ADHD, our brains don’t create or transport neurotransmitters correctly (among other things). It’s also why SNRIs are effective for some, they inhibit the brain’s reuptake of norepinephrine. I’m personally on both and they help eachother work more effectively.
Thanks for your speculation as to what the nature of this effect might be, but I don’t need it. Unless you totally abstain from coffee, tea and fizzy drinks, you have no idea what caffeine is like after not consuming it.
Especially, seeing as another guy here speculates that taking a nap after drinking coffee is a caffeine effect on ADHD, perhaps you two might want to speculate against each other as to whose speculation is more correct, speculatively speaking.
Yes, i have. And do you really think, you’re the first and only, geting off coffee?
coffeine is known to have the whole fucking range of effects on neurodiverse, from worsening their symptoms over having no effect at all to making them sleepy. This includes getting a lot of ADHD antsy, jittery.
Well then thank you for pulling the word ‘syndrome’ out of nowhere, since it figured nowhere in this conversation before. But you also say it means “displaying similiar effects”, so you mean that “worsening their symptoms over having no effect at all to making them sleepy” and “getting a lot of ADHD antsy, jittery” are “similar effects”?
Stimulants (also known as central nervous system stimulants, or psychostimulants, or colloquially as uppers) are a class of psychoactive drugs that increase alertness. They are used for various purposes, such as enhancing attention, motivation, cognition, mood, and physical performance. Some stimulants occur naturally, while others are exclusively synthetic. Common stimulants include caffeine, nicotine, cocaine (including crack cocaine), amphetamine/methamphetamine, methylphenidate, and modafinil. Most stimulants are highly addictive and damage health when addicted.
You must be like twenty years old to not know that stimulants give one an excess of energy that is later abruptly taken away.
Oh really? And are the whooshing of blood in my ears and the cranked-up muscle tone also from the placebo effect? And the fact that the shoulder muscles stay jacked up for several days afterwards, pulling my neck forward while the back muscles pull it back?
Stimulants stimulate the nervous system, who would’ve thought.
That’s not serious. Abstain from all of those for a month or two, then down two or three cups of coffee and get back to me. Even better if you keep doing alcohol during that, which is famously a depressant of aforementioned nervous system.
Not to mention that, if you don’t ever drink coffee, then you aren’t in a position to claim what it does or doesn’t do.
Nope. I can instantly tell when the wife has a Celsius or other “energy” drink because she doesn’t normally. I’ll full on addicted/dependant and it sucks trying to get off it, massive headaches, loss of focus. When she’s on it, kitchens get destroyed and other random things when she goes on a “cleaning spree”.
Absolute nonsense. I don’t drink coffee or tea, and if I drink a couple cups of coffee I end up with a hundred more tabs in the browser, two programming projects started and abandoned, a hundred notes tagged and reorganized, and a bunch of unnecessary and vaguely mean comments on Reddit and Lemmy. Possibly also a sore leg or shoulder from impromptu exercise.
You need to take control of your caffeine addiction.
https://www.chemistryhelpcenter.org/caffeine/ if you’re curious. Caffeine is a really interesting molecule.
Personally, I just want to take a nap after drinking coffee.
Check yourself for ADHD.
One of symptoms is that supposed stimulants have calming effect
I’m not sure about caffeine, but amphetamine-based stimulants (adderall, vyvanse, etc) stimulate the production of both dopamine (the feel good chemical) and norepinephrine, aka the anti-adrenaline neurotransmitter. That’s why it calms down people with ADHD, our brains don’t create or transport neurotransmitters correctly (among other things). It’s also why SNRIs are effective for some, they inhibit the brain’s reuptake of norepinephrine. I’m personally on both and they help eachother work more effectively.
alternatively… try hydrating. i thought it was the whole ADHD thing til i realized i get sleepy when i’m dehydrated…
No, science.
(first result) \https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/does-caffeine-actually-give-us-energyThe other one, sounds like caffeine effect on ADHD.
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Citation Ouroboros
Like i said, first result. You find 10 better after 10 seconds googling.
Why not just ask Gemini directly?
Thanks for your speculation as to what the nature of this effect might be, but I don’t need it. Unless you totally abstain from coffee, tea and fizzy drinks, you have no idea what caffeine is like after not consuming it.
Especially, seeing as another guy here speculates that taking a nap after drinking coffee is a caffeine effect on ADHD, perhaps you two might want to speculate against each other as to whose speculation is more correct, speculatively speaking.
Thanks for admitting that your guesswork doesn’t amount to jackshit since it contradicts itself.
With the info, that a “Syndrom” means a range of causes, displaying similiar effects you can roughly group together.
Now calm down.
Well then thank you for pulling the word ‘syndrome’ out of nowhere, since it figured nowhere in this conversation before. But you also say it means “displaying similiar effects”, so you mean that “worsening their symptoms over having no effect at all to making them sleepy” and “getting a lot of ADHD antsy, jittery” are “similar effects”?
Let’s also consult Wikipedia:
You must be like twenty years old to not know that stimulants give one an excess of energy that is later abruptly taken away.
Placebo effect entirely
Oh really? And are the whooshing of blood in my ears and the cranked-up muscle tone also from the placebo effect? And the fact that the shoulder muscles stay jacked up for several days afterwards, pulling my neck forward while the back muscles pull it back?
Stimulants stimulate the nervous system, who would’ve thought.
Sounds like quite a serious reaction. Have you seen a doctor about it?
Have you tried quitting your coffee addiction?
I don’t drink coffee. Why are you angry?
Do you also not drink tea and fizzy drinks?
Not really
That’s not serious. Abstain from all of those for a month or two, then down two or three cups of coffee and get back to me. Even better if you keep doing alcohol during that, which is famously a depressant of aforementioned nervous system.
Not to mention that, if you don’t ever drink coffee, then you aren’t in a position to claim what it does or doesn’t do.
Nope. I can instantly tell when the wife has a Celsius or other “energy” drink because she doesn’t normally. I’ll full on addicted/dependant and it sucks trying to get off it, massive headaches, loss of focus. When she’s on it, kitchens get destroyed and other random things when she goes on a “cleaning spree”.