• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    29 minutes ago

    Yeah. I don’t agree with that. I think it’s quite reasonable that the country that now exists can have laws governing intake of people.

    What other options are there?

    I get the vibe. But give me one reasonable alternative.

    Edit: I see nine down votes, one insult, and one option that only is reasonable if the resulting country would rely on the US for defense. Which is to say, there’s no reasonable option behind this cool catch phrase. It’s just a cool catch phrase. And I get down voting because I’m insulting. Your cool catchphrase. But we’re not going to get anywhere if we’re working off vibes.

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        30 minutes ago

        I could see this working in a world where people were sensible. I’d certainly support giving back some portion of the country and saying “ok you’re your own country now, have at it”.

        Where people will fight to the death is: which parts and how much land.

        But this at least is could be the framework for a reasonable option.

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      5 hours ago

      You act like the people that were here before didn’t have laws or society or ways of dealing with outsiders, and that’s pretty fucking gross of you

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        41 minutes ago

        Nope. That’s actually my point. Can’t have a society without rules for entry.

        So “no one is illegal on stolen land” is saying “you stole the land and built a society, and that society can’t have the rules necessary to exist.”

        It poses no next step and no real solution to the problem. It feels nice and gets us nowhere.

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          21 minutes ago

          Mkay, then your point is based solely on xenophobia and incorrect assumptions. I hope you take a moment to reflect on that, and try and come up with something better.