userdb: add birthDate field to JSON user records by dylanmtaylor · Pull Request #40954 · systemd/systemd
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Stores the user's birth date for age verification, as required by recent laws in California (AB-1043), Colorado (SB26-051), Brazil (Lei 15.211/2025), etc. The xdg-desktop-portal project is addi...

Not to mention that they locked the unpopular pull request from reactions.

  • Senal@programming.devEnglish
    3·
    7 hours ago

    I’m not even who you’re replying to but this is too interesting not to at least try to ask.

    As this is probably going to be our first and last interaction I’ll preface this by saying we probably share a lot of the same values but it seems our approaches are different.

    So here goes.

    1. That’s a hard pass from me. As a concept i mean.

    If you require me to read a set of rules to interact with you that’s an immediate red flag for me, regardless of how reasonable they are.

    I’m not suggesting you stop requiring them, i’m just saying i’m also free to ignore them.

    That being said i did actually read them on this occasion, i have no compulsion to abide by them, it just so happens that they mostly align with how i interact in general. That probably doesn’t seem like much of a distinction, but it is to me.

    As a side note, I’m a stickler for word choice and a solid 90% of people i’ve ever interacted with who claim to dislike pedantic grammar police are actually salty because they are being called out logical incorrectness in their word choice or sentence structure.

    This is purely anecdotal and i am in no way accusing you of this, but for me it’s an orange flag to see something like that.

    1. That’s fair, i’d expect nothing less.

    2. This is the interesting one, i don’t disagree on the principle but i’m interested to see how far through this you have thought.

    As i said to the person i replied to, the issue here isn’t the field itself so much as the intention behind it.

    If you’re far enough down the technological self reliance rabbit-hole to be compiling your own OS then you probably aren’t too fussed about dropping a few services if they mandate age verification, (the third party kind, not solvable by self compilation).

    As a hypothetical. let’s assume somebody technically competent (but common sense deficient) has a visit from the good idea fairy and convinces someone in power to mandate age verification at the ISP level.

    Is that a “stop using the internet” kind of moment or a “pirate ISP” kind of thing, perhaps a Cuba style local internet type deal or something else entirely ?

    1. That’s a big ask for the everyday consumer, as it stands at least.

    Does this way of thinking also address trust in the code itself or does that require you to read and understand all of the code being compiled, including libraries and other supply chain artifacts ?

    Does it extend to hardware as well, with things like IME, PSP and perhaps DASH all the trust in the world won’t counter internal hardware based attacks ?

    Not that i’m saying to do nothing, just wondering where you sit on this subject.

      • Senal@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        6 hours ago

        If you can’t understand it, chances are you can’t answer it so this saves us both some time.

        I was half-hoping someone with a big “I subscribe to this specific and obscure political ideology” would be expecting questions/discussion.

        Then again, that’s on me, i did see the big red flag warning at the beginning and went ahead anyway.

        The flags are there for a reason i suppose, worth a try.

              • Senal@programming.devEnglish
                1·
                3 hours ago

                I don’t see edit markers on either of your responses, so I must conclude you had no technical questions regarding this breach of commit.

                That would be a natural conclusion given that neither you nor i have made any reference to that article until just now, but congratulations, a correct conclusion still counts…i suppose.

                That article has no bearing on any of my questions or any position I’ve taken, which you would know if you had read/understood anything that has happened so far.

                If/when you do, let me know. In the meantime, I suggest you read up on esr’s essay on how to ask smart questions

                Similarly , that essay is for technical, code-related questions, of which i have asked none.

                Keep going though, I’m interested to see if you figure out what’s happening.

                You’ve got this, i believe in you!

                • _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.socialEnglish
                  1·
                  3 hours ago

                  Then we have nothing further to discuss.

                  Now, if you want to learn how to engage others in the threadiverse, ALA created a wonderful guide when dealing with multi faceted discussions regarding potential breaches of conduct, like we saw Dylan here gravely commit.

                  If you want to engage me in earnest, I do suggest you open another thread in another community or direct message on what you may perversely believe is a red flag.

                  Do note I have a busy schedule dealing with my bloc activities, so I will be limited on how and when I choose to respond.

                  This privacy community is not your political platform to demand libre developers comply with your personal choice of engagements.

                  • Senal@programming.devEnglish
                    1·
                    2 hours ago

                    There was no discussion to begin with, that would requires you to understand enough to respond to the text being presented, there had been no evidence of that so far.

                    I can and have been engaging just fine, you seem to be the one having trouble with this particular interaction.

                    As I stated initially ( it’s still there, feel free to review ) the terms themselves aren’t the red flag, it’s the approach to using them.

                    I did engage you in earnest, with my contextual perspective and then with questions somewhat related to the subject.

                    You went with a slight as a response, didn’t read the rest of it and then proceeded to guess incorrectly multiple times about information easily available.

                    If you don’t want to read, that’s fine, suggesting reading materials for a context you don’t understand however, makes you seem incompetent.

                    I demanded nothing, which again you would know if you had read or understood the response.

                    I don’t think further communication will be to anyone’s benefit, you’ve shown no indication of being able to follow along with basic conversation.

                    Not a single response has been relevant to the text to which it was replying.

                    I’d be genuinely surprised if you could actually compile an OS. Which means your opinion on related topics is suspect as far as I am concerned.