Someone else has broken down a lot of examples, but in the broader sense, around half of states, a little more than half IIRC, have an age of consent of 16. The reason 18 is so well known is that’s the age of consent where so much of our media is made, California.
In some cases it’s also a easy way out of an abusive house hold for high schooler.
My mother for example was beat basically daily and abused by her parents. My father putting a ring on her allowed him to become her legal guardian and remove her from her parents while allowing her to keep going to school and be protected from the state forcing her to go back home.
My mother was 16 my father was 18. They met when she was a freshmen and him a junior. Dates all though out high school.
Sometimes being a little flexible is the right call. It sucks that we don’t have better systems in place to deal with such things. But you work with in the system you have.
But isn’t the age of consent 18 in the US? How does that work?
Common misconception, but nope! The U.S. decided to leave that one up to the states, since apparently whether or not it’s okay to screw children depends on… what geographical coordinates within the U.S. you’re located in. It’s also separate from whether or not you can marry btw.
It also depends on a number of different factors in some jurisdictions. For example, the age of consent might be 18, but with exemptions for someone who’s 16 or older with someone who is within 2 years of their age. (e.g. a 16yo & 18yo, 17yo & 19yo)
It can also vary based on larger age gaps. For example, Washington has the age of consent at 16, but it can go up to 18 if the other person is more than 5 years older and other conditions are met.
Or, you could be like Iowa, who sets it at 16… but allows people 14-15yo to do it with someone up to 18 or 19yo respectively.
For marriage, sometimes it lines up with age of consent and sometimes it doesn’t.
For example, California sets the age of consent at 18, and any sexual activity with someone 18 regardless of your age (even if you are also under 18, or even the same age) is a crime… unless you’re married, which can be done at any age in the state, so long as there is parental consent and a judge says yes.
To be very transparent… I’m basically just paraphrasing from these two Wikipedia pages 😅
I will say that the 2 year age gap actually makes sense though. Dating in high school would be a lot weirder with restricted ages based on if your birthday was in May vs January of the same year.
Yeah, I definitely agree with that precedent. Stuff would be incredibly hard to navigate without it and you’d essentially just end up with a bunch of high schoolers technically committing a crime.
Certainly one way to speed up the school-to-prison pipeline 💀
Wow, that’s a lot more complicated than I would have expected!
Our system, although it’s basically the way it is because things change slowly here, kind of works for us. Between 16-18 here, you’re no longer in school, you go to college (different meaning than in the US!) or vocational training. It’s an in-between child and adult stage, where most people start doing grown-up things for the first time.
Wow, that’s a lot more complicated than I would have expected!
This happens a lot in the USA, because of how much autonomy the states have. A lot of decisions are left up to individual states, and some states end up doing strange things and add all sorts of exceptions to their laws. Even basic things like sick leave aren’t federally mandated (and only 19 or so out of the 50 states have mandated paid sick leave).
Sometimes it can be a good thing though… For example, California has the strictest privacy laws in the country (CCPA and CPRA, similar to GDPR in Europe), and Illinois has very strict laws on usage of biometrics (like fingerprints and facial recognition). Those would have been extremely hard to approve nationwide. Things that go well in one state often end up rolling out to other states too.
By that same logic don’t hold Europe up as a good example of privacy either despite the gdpr.
Like are you actually that stupid? Californias age verification thing is annoying yes, but cali is still one of the prime example of digital privacy and consumer protections in the world.
No where’s perfect for fuck sake. You can’t just ignore all the good cause one thing that hasn’t even happened yet could possibly be bad.
But isn’t the age of consent 18 in the US? How does that work?
In the UK you used to be able to get married at 16, but the age of consent is 16, so it kind of made sense.
Someone else has broken down a lot of examples, but in the broader sense, around half of states, a little more than half IIRC, have an age of consent of 16. The reason 18 is so well known is that’s the age of consent where so much of our media is made, California.
“Fun” fact! Marriage is a defense to statutory.
In rural Oklahoma, you can fuck a teenager as long as you put a ring on it.
In some cases it’s also a easy way out of an abusive house hold for high schooler.
My mother for example was beat basically daily and abused by her parents. My father putting a ring on her allowed him to become her legal guardian and remove her from her parents while allowing her to keep going to school and be protected from the state forcing her to go back home.
My mother was 16 my father was 18. They met when she was a freshmen and him a junior. Dates all though out high school.
Sometimes being a little flexible is the right call. It sucks that we don’t have better systems in place to deal with such things. But you work with in the system you have.
The thing is, for every story like your mother, there’s ten girls who were married off to their rapist and forced to drop out of school.
Marriage cannot be the solution for child abuse.
Common misconception, but nope! The U.S. decided to leave that one up to the states, since apparently whether or not it’s okay to screw children depends on… what geographical coordinates within the U.S. you’re located in. It’s also separate from whether or not you can marry btw.
It also depends on a number of different factors in some jurisdictions. For example, the age of consent might be 18, but with exemptions for someone who’s 16 or older with someone who is within 2 years of their age. (e.g. a 16yo & 18yo, 17yo & 19yo)
It can also vary based on larger age gaps. For example, Washington has the age of consent at 16, but it can go up to 18 if the other person is more than 5 years older and other conditions are met.
Or, you could be like Iowa, who sets it at 16… but allows people 14-15yo to do it with someone up to 18 or 19yo respectively.
For marriage, sometimes it lines up with age of consent and sometimes it doesn’t.
For example, California sets the age of consent at 18, and any sexual activity with someone 18 regardless of your age (even if you are also under 18, or even the same age) is a crime… unless you’re married, which can be done at any age in the state, so long as there is parental consent and a judge says yes.
To be very transparent… I’m basically just paraphrasing from these two Wikipedia pages 😅
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
I will say that the 2 year age gap actually makes sense though. Dating in high school would be a lot weirder with restricted ages based on if your birthday was in May vs January of the same year.
Yeah, I definitely agree with that precedent. Stuff would be incredibly hard to navigate without it and you’d essentially just end up with a bunch of high schoolers technically committing a crime.
Certainly one way to speed up the school-to-prison pipeline 💀
Wow, that’s a lot more complicated than I would have expected!
Our system, although it’s basically the way it is because things change slowly here, kind of works for us. Between 16-18 here, you’re no longer in school, you go to college (different meaning than in the US!) or vocational training. It’s an in-between child and adult stage, where most people start doing grown-up things for the first time.
This happens a lot in the USA, because of how much autonomy the states have. A lot of decisions are left up to individual states, and some states end up doing strange things and add all sorts of exceptions to their laws. Even basic things like sick leave aren’t federally mandated (and only 19 or so out of the 50 states have mandated paid sick leave).
Sometimes it can be a good thing though… For example, California has the strictest privacy laws in the country (CCPA and CPRA, similar to GDPR in Europe), and Illinois has very strict laws on usage of biometrics (like fingerprints and facial recognition). Those would have been extremely hard to approve nationwide. Things that go well in one state often end up rolling out to other states too.
Dont hold up California as a good example of privacy when they’re leading the charge in demanding OS level age verification…
It’s not perfect, and I don’t like the OS-level age verification, but in terms of privacy it’s still far better than most other jurisdictions.
By that same logic don’t hold Europe up as a good example of privacy either despite the gdpr.
Like are you actually that stupid? Californias age verification thing is annoying yes, but cali is still one of the prime example of digital privacy and consumer protections in the world.
No where’s perfect for fuck sake. You can’t just ignore all the good cause one thing that hasn’t even happened yet could possibly be bad.