A lot of people I’ve met would honestly happily take a 50% chance to be sacrificed to ensure that those who aren’t chosen live a happy life. I have no doubt that they’d think that right up until they’re actually chosen, then they’d scream bloody murder about how unfair it is.
Theres a reoccuring problem with bigly brained thinkers where they omit all the terrible shit and look at only what the propaganda wants them to. Even in a game this remains true.
Most clips from Starship Troopers on YouTube have filled comments’ sections with people waxing about how based the society is and it’s actually a utopia (to your point).
Well the movie elimanted the entire opening sequence of the book where they are just being terrorists in their super space suits (which the movie also did not include). I think that was necessary to drive the point home.
I’ve heard that the book was sincere jingoism, which the director of the movie didn’t like one bit and turned it into clever satire of fascism instead? Haven’t read it, but the movie is great, even if there’s a bunch if idiots on both sides (fascist and antifascists) thinking that it’s sincere.
Its bad, dude sounded like he wanted this the entire time and it really would be better. But that scene in the beginning stuck with me through the entire reading and I came out with nearly the same interpretation as the movie.
Heinlein was…rather directionless on his politics. I think it was Clarke that once remarked that Heinlein’s politics depended on who he was sleeping with - which is why you get weird whiplash from the anti-governance free-love (and incest and racism) in Methuselah’s Children and Farnham’s Freehold to a full throated defense of utopian fascism in Starship Troopers.
Having now looked through several comment sections, I found like 10 satire comments jokingly going along with fascist rhetoric and 3 genuinely mask off accounts. I don’t think it’s very common, at least in default sorting. I don’t know or care to learn how to sort by new, on mobile.
That’s fair; could’ve also just been my timing, too, and there was a surge or something, at the moment I was looking, but it’s not consistently the case.
Is this helldivers? The game where half of a planet’s population is forcibly turned into bug fuel every few years?
A lot of people I’ve met would honestly happily take a 50% chance to be sacrificed to ensure that those who aren’t chosen live a happy life. I have no doubt that they’d think that right up until they’re actually chosen, then they’d scream bloody murder about how unfair it is.
Theres a reoccuring problem with bigly brained thinkers where they omit all the terrible shit and look at only what the propaganda wants them to. Even in a game this remains true.
Most clips from Starship Troopers on YouTube have filled comments’ sections with people waxing about how based the society is and it’s actually a utopia (to your point).
Well the movie elimanted the entire opening sequence of the book where they are just being terrorists in their super space suits (which the movie also did not include). I think that was necessary to drive the point home.
I’ve heard that the book was sincere jingoism, which the director of the movie didn’t like one bit and turned it into clever satire of fascism instead? Haven’t read it, but the movie is great, even if there’s a bunch if idiots on both sides (fascist and antifascists) thinking that it’s sincere.
Its bad, dude sounded like he wanted this the entire time and it really would be better. But that scene in the beginning stuck with me through the entire reading and I came out with nearly the same interpretation as the movie.
Heinlein was…rather directionless on his politics. I think it was Clarke that once remarked that Heinlein’s politics depended on who he was sleeping with - which is why you get weird whiplash from the anti-governance free-love (and incest and racism) in Methuselah’s Children and Farnham’s Freehold to a full throated defense of utopian fascism in Starship Troopers.
Having now looked through several comment sections, I found like 10 satire comments jokingly going along with fascist rhetoric and 3 genuinely mask off accounts. I don’t think it’s very common, at least in default sorting. I don’t know or care to learn how to sort by new, on mobile.
That’s fair; could’ve also just been my timing, too, and there was a surge or something, at the moment I was looking, but it’s not consistently the case.