I’m working on it. Maybe. Well, one day. Like when other Left of centre, anti trump, anti corpo type folks oppose the things I oppose in correct manner and degree, duh.
I’m working on it. Maybe. Well, one day. Like when other Left of centre, anti trump, anti corpo type folks oppose the things I oppose in correct manner and degree, duh.
Watching Andor or some youtuber doesn’t count as a significant understanding of fascism.
If you’d actually learned about fascism, you’d know that the Brownshirts and Blackshirts both were itching for street level fights and that the resulting chaos in the streets fueled perceptions of mayhem which helped enable both fascist movements to enact more sweeping laws etc.
The reason trump sent ICE into Democratic cities with smaller immigrant communities was precisely because he was hoping people would be dumb enough to start throwing punches or better/worse yet, kill an officer.
You beat nascent fascism movements by convincing people. You don’t win by punching randoms. As my friend had to explain to her young son, “you might be right but the moment you throw a punch, you’ve lost. Doesn’t matter if you’re in the right, you’ve lost.”
Honestly, if I were one of the digital overlords of social media and I wanted to help the trump administration, I can think of few things more effective than promoting this idea of punching “nazis”. If enough idiots listen and we start throwing serious punches, we’ll lose.
If you want to learn, it’s a bit of a slog but I can think of few books better than Shirers Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.
That’s a pretty big fucking assumption that you’re making about me and the background of my knowledge. If you won’t take this conversation seriously, then neither will I. Bye.
It’s based on what you wrote.
No one who has read anything serious about fascism suggests punching people is anything but helpful to the regime.
You might read Timothy Snyder’s “On Tyranny”. It’s very short and quite well written.
I’ve read it. I’ve also read Hannah Arendt, Umberto Eco, and other scholars of fascism.
But if you’re just going to assume my criticism of fascism is based on a fiction series made by Disney of all fucking companies, then I’m not going to waste my time discussing these things with you.
When I got banned from reddit for saying we should normalize punching nazis, it was from before this regime took hold, when it was still a foreboding storm cloud on the horizon. It was maybe 2023 or 2024, when an innocent black man was beaten to death by cops, and a photograph circulated of a dude who wore a nazi armband to the man’s funeral.
I’m sorry, but if you think the appropriate response to that is anything other than to use physical force to chase him away and teach him never to pull that shit again out of fear for what will happen to him, then I just can’t agree with you.
The Allies in WWII didn’t defeat the nazis by being nice. I recognize the situation isn’t comparable, because there’s no coalition of global superpowers capable and willing to depose the current regime in the US, and no ragtag band of rebels has the resources or backing, let alone the organization or the experience, that it would take to stand against the government, and any escalation would spell disaster for the last remnants of hope there are for an electoral offramp from this madness. But that’s simply not the context that I was posting in.
Feel free keep handling fascists with kiddie gloves, but that treatment is what enabled them to seize power in the first place. Not because people were treating them too harshly. Neville Chamberlain would like a word…