• PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
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    It’s mask off time for capitalism. Business to person sales are no longer lucrative. All the money is in company to company now. See AI companies buying out entire present and future stock of PC parts until 2030. Regular people are no longer needed in this form of society. That’s why the market goes up while job numbers and employment go down. The economy can now support itself without anyone else.

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      Except that it seems a lot of these trades are on-paper, and not involving the actual transfer of goods. The data centres aren’t getting built. The servers aren’t going in them. The power isn’t being supplied. The tokens are not being generated. At least… It’s only a fraction of what they are all saying.

      Some auditor is going to have a field day.

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        Yes but who actually cares? If society tolerates no actual real physical transfer of goods and leaves it all speculative, it doesn’t matter. The deals are made, financial institutions accept this, realistically it doesn’t matter that none of this is “real”. If society decides that it’s real, it’s real. Just like how paper money has zero real tangible worth. It’s all an agreed upon concept. The same is happening here.

        The economy we had for the last handful of decades is gone. Speculative economy where only the top percentage trades with itself is where we are at and where we will stay.

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          It can’t be completely circular. There is an end customer that will expect something for their money eventually. Right now it’s driven by huge amounts of debt, but you can’t be on that forever. At some point it unwinds

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            It seems that end point is government bailing out banks using taxes, and people are paying more for the same due to inflation, while their salaries do not catch up with the cost of living.

            This seemingly happens in US right now.

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            Yeah, all this is illegal not because it’s an infinite money glitch, but because it acts like it is while destabilizing the economy

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      9 hours ago

      Well eventually someone has to consume something for all of this to make sense, no?

      Also isn’t this more the result of unhinged capitalism without any real workers pushback?

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        Nope. This can keep going on. Big businesses with all the capital will continue doing trade exclusively with other big businesses and government. They don’t need our money anymore. And it’s not like we’re really going to have any trivial amounts of money anyways.

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          And what does that money represent anymore at that point?

          Seems too many have forgotten that its the peasant’s labor that gives money any value.

          Money doesn’t produce anything.

          What’s the value of a dollar if it can’t buy you bread?