• AnyOldName3@lemmy.world
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    The context: the UK ended slavery within the empire by taking out a huge loan to buy all the slaves in the empire, then freeing them. The loan wasn’t fully paid off until recently, so UK taxpayers were effectively paying for money that had been given to slave owners. However, it quickly and decisively put a stop to slavery in a lot of the world without much fuss or objection, when it otherwise could have triggered wars.

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        A lot of it is going to be in places outside the rule of the modern UK since the British Empire never really did industrial slavery at home AFAIK.

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          yeah, but there were probably a lot of slave owners who lived in the UK and got a pay out, and passed it on to there descendants.

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      were gonna think the same thing in the future with things like gun buybacks and maybe the break up of monopolies and electric vehicle rebates. financial incentives can be an effective way to make ethical changes and it’s tough to give money to companies and people who are unethical but i guess it’s the only way to do it sometimes?

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      And China is enslaving people currently.

      I mean, the post is about the UK and we’re bringing up other countries for no reason, right?

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          We made it constitutionally protected via the 13th Ammendment. It’s bullshit, and one of the many reasons, IMO, why minorities (especially black people) are still disproportionately targeted by law enforcement.

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          Our system is fucked up, but at the same time who and why is feeding someone for a lifetime scott-free? All prisons have labor as a backbone besides, was it Switzerland or Norway?

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            The problem with forcing prisoners to fund their own punishment is that it makes incarceration easier. If you are not even willing to pay the full expenses of taking away someone’s freedom, how can I believe that you have fully taken into account the full weight of taking away someone’s freedom before doing it? And if you take it a step farther, and actually turn profit from said imprisonment - I cannot trust your claims that it’s justified.

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                That’s the problem. The state shouldn’t have a profit motive when it comes to incarcerating humans.

                In fact, prisons being expensive is a very good motive to find better ways of handling rehabilitation than locking people in cages.

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        Do you have any sources on the China part? Not trying to be a gotcha-Andy, genuinely curious because most western media fucking blows.