[a city devasted by war, with smoke coming from ruined building, in which dead corpses are lying in pools of blood, is below the following text]
WORKING CLASS PEOPLE KILLING EACH OTHER IN AN ENDLESS WAR WHILE THE POOR GET POORER AND THE RICH GET RICHER
[a smug character points at the devastated city, while saying]
If you do not blindly and fully support this, then you are an evil person who wants others to die
I don’t find that there is hypocrisy on this. In all recent cases, I’m firmly against the aggressor.
And so on. Everyone has the right to defend themselves, but most of the war going on today is NOT about defense.
Sure, I agree, then let’s actually militarily defend Ukraine / Palestine / Venezuela / Iran / Lebanon.
Oh wait, it was all posturing and nobody’s willing to actually do that.
Now let’s find actually realistic solutions to those conflicts that aren’t 1 000 000 more dead proles.
No you can’t just expect people to base policy on something as dumb as material reality. It’s all about the total, inviolable abstract moral purity I can project from the safety of my comfy couch by having the only virtuous, ethical opinion: regardless of whether they want to or not, all Ukrainians should be sent off to fight the Russians until the last man or total victory. Everything else would just encourage further aggression.
Peace through strength - oh wait that’s the evil American line, we are better than thatBecause arming people who hate you with heavy weapons is such a good idea. Why don’t we ask Prigozhin how that worked…
The EU is willing to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian 🫡
Ukraine has two options.
Get killer or raped, or both by putin’s imerialistic regime, or fight for their country.
So saying that EU somehow behind dead Ukrainians, it’s like saying that woman is responsible for rape because she should not fight back and just agree to aggression.
It’s posturing because the alternative is more French proles dead. You complain about proles dying yet are mad for Macron not racing to get French proles killed.
How about not arming Israel, not financing Russia through fossil fuels, not giving tax cuts to US megacorps while they fuck around the world, actially applying financial pressure on bad actors and organizing boycotts etc.
I was asking the question rhetorically, to make a point. There’s other ways to wage a war. We’re not even trying (or worse in the case of Palestine we’re actively harming them).
Did you stop using fossil fuels?
I don’t directly consume any myself, I’m not the correct person to try this gotcha on.
Although even if I wanted to, I don’t get to know or control which country the fossil fuels I’d use are imported from. These are things that are handled at state level. I’m a full time activist trying to get politicians who would deal with that elected (and trying to get the state to change its stance on Israel), my words are not hollow.
Yes, those would be good policies to adopt. No dissent there.
Fyi the Israel vs Palestine thing has been back and forth for decades. Each generation only knowing of the previous attacks during their childhood. An eye for an eye has left everyone blind.
It has been going on for decades, but never “back and forth.” Israel has always been the clear and undisputable aggressor; some Palestinian factions (and in earlier stages mobs) have some blood on their hands, but that was always misguided self-defense or misguided retaliation, never outright aggression.