• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    5 hours ago

    Give them a few more years and every site except big social media will be flagged as dangerous in your browser, like those without valid SSL certs are now.

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      Pushing SSL was probably the last big tech effort/push that actually benefited users. Sure it made self hosting a little harder, and probably consolidated some tracking behind bigger players, but overall end users did benefit.

      Most of what I see now is purely for their benefit and users don’t benefit.

      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yeah, rallying against SSL is a weird way to go about it. SSL is one of the biggest and most meaningful changes to come about as a result of the Snowden leaks. The leaks were literally what prompted http to shift towards https instead, because it shined a bright spotlight on how insecure http truly is.

        In the short term, it made self-hosting more difficult. But nowadays, with things like nginx and Let’s Encrypt, enabling SSL on your self-hosted site is as simple as selecting a few drop-down boxes, pasting an API key, and automating a cert refresh.

        The true “has the potential to gatekeep the entire internet” existential threat is when a company like Meta or Google becomes the authority for things like ID verification or SSO.

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          3 hours ago

          “has the potential to gatekeep the entire internet”

          Add Cloudflare hosting everything to that list.

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            3 hours ago

            A big man in the middle attack service, operating in a hostile nation? What could go wrong?

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            Cloudflare hosting everything

            But it’s so cheeeeeep! My website (continuously hosted since 1996) used to cost me $15 per month, since I migrated it to Cloudfare they’re charging $0.01 ro $0.02 per month for the same hosting services - it’s been about 18 months now, I think - I just got last months “bill” - I now owe them $0.25, but they won’t charge me until it hits $1.00.

            Free service? YOU are the product.

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      3 hours ago

      Wouldn’t be surprised in the least.

      We’re well on our way to being something in between North Korea and Russia. Maybe Hungary would be a good comparison.