…because VPNs obscure a user’s true location, and because intelligence agencies presume that communications of unknown origin are foreign, Americans may be inadvertently waiving the privacy protections they’re entitled to under the law…

…VPNs might protect you against garden-variety criminals, but the intentional commingling of origin/destination points by VPNs could turn purely domestic communications into “foreign” communications the NSA can legally intercept (and the FBI, somewhat less-legally can dip into at will)…

Certainly the NSA isn’t concerned about “incidental collection.” It’s never been too concerned about its consistent “incidental” collection of US persons’ communications and data in the past and this isn’t going to budge the needle, especially since it means the NSA would have to do more work to filter out domestic communications and the FBI would be less than thrilled with any efforts made to deny it access to communications it doesn’t have the legal right to obtain on its own.

Since the government won’t do this, it’s up to the general public, starting with everyone sharing the contents of this letter with others. VPNs can still offer considerable security benefits. But everyone needs to know that domestic surveillance is one of the possible side effects of utilizing this tech.

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    Nord is owned by Tesonet, a data mining company which also owns SurfShark.

    And Private Internet Access and ExpressVPN are owned by Kape, an Israeli firm.

    ProtonVPN is owned by Proton, in Switzerland.

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      Mullvad is based in Sweden and is the main interest of its seemingly decent, also Swedish, parent company

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        Fan of Mullvad but just be aware its not what you want if you’re using a VPN for torrenting. They had to remove their port forwarding feature due to some bad actors ruining it for the rest of us.

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              I run into that problem too on CyberGhost, I wonder if my settings are not fully optimized as I tried to go for security over openeness due to my limited knowledge… Sometimes a torrent will have up to 10 seeders but will still stall out / fail, I always thought that was due to those seeders having limited bandwidth and being queued up for hundreds of other downloads before they get to mine, but now I wonder if its my settings… Either way I would rather optimize for security, but I wish I could get some rare stuff sometimes that has few seeders.

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            they don’t allow port forwarding which nerfs the effectiveness of seeding, seeding is still possible, just not as effective.

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                Shit I rarely make it above 1:1 even if I seed 24/7 for a while, I wonder if I need to work on my settings.

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                  You don’t. It’s okay to have less than 1:1 if there’s a lot of seeds. If you are super early after release tho, it’s nice if you keep it up for few hours

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      Thanks for the extra digging, no true privacy but at least there’s some transparency with the vpns.