Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. There will always be a more ideal goal. If you refuse to work towards something that’s actually achievable because you want more, well, that’s why leftists fight each other more than fighting the fascists that have taken over the usa and are well on the way to taking over the rest of the world too.
The issue is that we aren’t asking for perfect. We are asking for the bare minimum.
Liberal and neoliberalist politics are not progress. They are regressive holding actions of the capitalist state that gives meager concessions to pacify any revolutionary action as they continue to consolidate power until they can impose their fascist rule later down the line.
Liberalism and Neoliberalism, fundamentally being a capitalist Imperialist ideology, intrinsically enables fascism to exist and acquire power.
You are trying to say that one step forward and two steps back is forward progress.
Don’t let lesser be the enemy of what’s right. There will always be liberals seeking compromise on the right thing, and they’re wrong. That’s why the left fights and resists these right wing half measures.
And this is the hard part for most people: I don’t stop there, because I’ve achieved goal 1 of 99 and the road is long and hard and where is everyone going
Modern incrementalists are not fit to speak of people who accomplish things other than genocide.
“Incrementalism is when harm reduction”
I see one of my tankie bootlicker fans has come to chime in. Sorry that I didn’t want tens of thousands of Iranians murdered, while you view it as a price you’re willing to pay for moral purity and absolutely no positive change.
Sorry that I didn’t want tens of thousands of Iranians murdered, while you view it as a price you’re willing to pay for moral purity and absolutely no positive change.
And you view it as an acceptable price to pay as long as no one got to vote against the genocide you masturbate to.
Sorry that you think calling out Israelis for genociding Palestinians is praise. I’d say I hope you get better, but I know fascist bootlickers never do. :)
And yet the leftists accomplish nothing other than empowering the right through their weaponized political ineptitude. They are not fit to gatekeep liberals from political action.
😂 Leftists out here pitting the Dems into a two-front war because Dems didn’t provide a post-pandemic Marxist revolution with a 50-50 Senate, then trying to say they should be winning more elections if they want support. Hysterical.
They did just in just the last 12 months expand a liberal supreme court majority in WI, have the first statewide wins in GA against incumbent republicans since 2006, flip a TX state senate district where Trump had won 58-41, and flip the FL state house district where Mar a Lago is.
You’re collapsing progressives and leftists and just making my policy positions up in your head because otherwise your point falls apart.
A progressive Democrat winning a red seat inside the party (as in working with and within the party like Rehmet did) is not proof that Democrats should “stop attacking the left.” It’s proof that better Democrats, even progressives in the party, can win and don’t need to resort to attacking their own potential coalition partners in the rest of the party.
Also, if you have to rewrite my position as “I support genocide and hate everything that tries to upend the status quo” to answer me, you’re not rebutting me. You’re constructing a straw man.
This seems utopian, akin to one saying “participating in wage labour empowers capitalists - working most jobs is still evil”.
What is the point of such abstract declarations? I’m an anti-capitalist because I want to improve the world, not to be “good” or “correct” or some other philosophical purity; “the point is to change it”.
If there’s so few leftists it doesn’t matter, why blame them, hrm? Oh, it’s virtue signalling for the Democrats screwing up the election and for their winning strategy of going for the former MAGA vote? Well damn, you convinced me!
Let’s have a moment of silent gratitude for all those US leftists who preserved their personal sense of moral superiority by not voting or voting third party in the 2024 election. Where would we be without them?
Evidentially nowhere because the Dems when leftist vote for them shout they weren’t needed and proceed to not pass anything. But keep on compromising your morals and values for the lesser evil, I’m SURE that’ll win them over in the end.
Biden-era Democrats: passing child cash payments, drug-price negotiation, insulin caps, the biggest climate bill in US history, and the biggest federal gun-safety law in decades. With a 50-50 Senate and an obstructionist opposition.
Obama-era Democrats: passing ACA, Fair Sentencing Act, Dodd Frank, creating CFPB, etc. With only like 70 days of having 60 votes in the senate.
Leftists: dems pass nothing.
Question for you: do you think Palestinians should thank you for rejecting imperfect Democrats and helping to hand the presidency, house and senate to the party whose members openly support fewer restrictions on Israel?
But keep rejecting them to preserve your sense of superiority, I’m SURE that’ll help the most vulnerable more than keeping Republicans out of power.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. There will always be a more ideal goal. If you refuse to work towards something that’s actually achievable because you want more, well, that’s why leftists fight each other more than fighting the fascists that have taken over the usa and are well on the way to taking over the rest of the world too.
The issue is that we aren’t asking for perfect. We are asking for the bare minimum.
Liberal and neoliberalist politics are not progress. They are regressive holding actions of the capitalist state that gives meager concessions to pacify any revolutionary action as they continue to consolidate power until they can impose their fascist rule later down the line.
Liberalism and Neoliberalism, fundamentally being a capitalist Imperialist ideology, intrinsically enables fascism to exist and acquire power.
You are trying to say that one step forward and two steps back is forward progress.
Don’t let lesser be the enemy of what’s right. There will always be liberals seeking compromise on the right thing, and they’re wrong. That’s why the left fights and resists these right wing half measures.
I’ll take what I can get.
And this is the hard part for most people: I don’t stop there, because I’ve achieved goal 1 of 99 and the road is long and hard and where is everyone going
But historically, leftists in the strongest age of labor agitation have supported ‘half-measures’ that didn’t bring about full socialism.
And that’s why many leftist don’t like the half-measures
… because they think accelerationism would have worked?
Modern incrementalists are not fit to speak of people who accomplish things other than genocide.
“Incrementalism is when harm reduction”
I see one of my tankie bootlicker fans has come to chime in. Sorry that I didn’t want tens of thousands of Iranians murdered, while you view it as a price you’re willing to pay for moral purity and absolutely no positive change.
And you view it as an acceptable price to pay as long as no one got to vote against the genocide you masturbate to.
Sorry that I’ve been calling out the Palestinian genocide for a decade-and-a-half.
I guess you weren’t paying attention until recently.
As the best shit you’ve ever seen.
Sorry that you think calling out Israelis for genociding Palestinians is praise. I’d say I hope you get better, but I know fascist bootlickers never do. :)
And yet the leftists accomplish nothing other than empowering the right through their weaponized political ineptitude. They are not fit to gatekeep liberals from political action.
Like all those elections liberals are winning. Oh wait.
😂 Leftists out here pitting the Dems into a two-front war because Dems didn’t provide a post-pandemic Marxist revolution with a 50-50 Senate, then trying to say they should be winning more elections if they want support. Hysterical.
They did just in just the last 12 months expand a liberal supreme court majority in WI, have the first statewide wins in GA against incumbent republicans since 2006, flip a TX state senate district where Trump had won 58-41, and flip the FL state house district where Mar a Lago is.
But leftists:
Democrats should stop fighting the left, then.
They got the one thing you wanted done. They sold weapons for genocide.
That was one of the progressive candidates you hate.
You’re collapsing progressives and leftists and just making my policy positions up in your head because otherwise your point falls apart.
A progressive Democrat winning a red seat inside the party (as in working with and within the party like Rehmet did) is not proof that Democrats should “stop attacking the left.” It’s proof that better Democrats, even progressives in the party, can win and don’t need to resort to attacking their own potential coalition partners in the rest of the party.
Also, if you have to rewrite my position as “I support genocide and hate everything that tries to upend the status quo” to answer me, you’re not rebutting me. You’re constructing a straw man.
Liberals don’t take political action. They prevent it. With one notable exception, in which they get out of their own way.
Voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil. Just because they’re not as bad doesn’t mean they aren’t just as unpalatable to leftists.
This seems utopian, akin to one saying “participating in wage labour empowers capitalists - working most jobs is still evil”.
What is the point of such abstract declarations? I’m an anti-capitalist because I want to improve the world, not to be “good” or “correct” or some other philosophical purity; “the point is to change it”.
Then let’s vote for good! there’s dozens of us!
How many people are voting? oh.
If there’s so few leftists it doesn’t matter, why blame them, hrm? Oh, it’s virtue signalling for the Democrats screwing up the election and for their winning strategy of going for the former MAGA vote? Well damn, you convinced me!
because if there’s one thing leftists are good at, aside from infighting of course, it’s convincing people not to vote.
And there’s one good thing neo-liberal chuds do, is be only slightly better than MAGA.
Good isn’t on the ballot.
Let’s have a moment of silent gratitude for all those US leftists who preserved their personal sense of moral superiority by not voting or voting third party in the 2024 election. Where would we be without them?
Evidentially nowhere because the Dems when leftist vote for them shout they weren’t needed and proceed to not pass anything. But keep on compromising your morals and values for the lesser evil, I’m SURE that’ll win them over in the end.
Your interlocutor isn’t compromising anything. They got 100% of what they wanted from every candidate in the race.
Biden-era Democrats: passing child cash payments, drug-price negotiation, insulin caps, the biggest climate bill in US history, and the biggest federal gun-safety law in decades. With a 50-50 Senate and an obstructionist opposition.
Obama-era Democrats: passing ACA, Fair Sentencing Act, Dodd Frank, creating CFPB, etc. With only like 70 days of having 60 votes in the senate.
Leftists: dems pass nothing.
Question for you: do you think Palestinians should thank you for rejecting imperfect Democrats and helping to hand the presidency, house and senate to the party whose members openly support fewer restrictions on Israel?
But keep rejecting them to preserve your sense of superiority, I’m SURE that’ll help the most vulnerable more than keeping Republicans out of power.
Stop framing genocide supporters as good.