• lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOPM
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    4 days ago

    Don’t let lesser be the enemy of what’s right. There will always be liberals seeking compromise on the right thing, and they’re wrong. That’s why the left fights and resists these right wing half measures.

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      That’s why the left fights and resists these right wing half measures.

      But historically, leftists in the strongest age of labor agitation have supported ‘half-measures’ that didn’t bring about full socialism.

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        But historically, leftists in the strongest age of labor agitation have supported ‘half-measures’ that didn’t bring about full socialism.

        Modern incrementalists are not fit to speak of people who accomplish things other than genocide.

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          Modern incrementalists are not fit to speak of people who accomplish things other than genocide.

          “Incrementalism is when harm reduction”

          I see one of my tankie bootlicker fans has come to chime in. Sorry that I didn’t want tens of thousands of Iranians murdered, while you view it as a price you’re willing to pay for moral purity and absolutely no positive change.

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            Sorry that I didn’t want tens of thousands of Iranians murdered, while you view it as a price you’re willing to pay for moral purity and absolutely no positive change.

            And you view it as an acceptable price to pay as long as no one got to vote against the genocide you masturbate to.

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              And you view it as an acceptable price to pay as long as no one got to vote against the genocide you masturbate to.

              Sorry that I’ve been calling out the Palestinian genocide for a decade-and-a-half.

              I guess you weren’t paying attention until recently.

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                Sorry that I’ve been calling out the Palestinian genocide for a decade-and-a-half.

                As the best shit you’ve ever seen.

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                  As the best shit you’ve ever seen.

                  Sorry that you think calling out Israelis for genociding Palestinians is praise. I’d say I hope you get better, but I know fascist bootlickers never do. :)

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                    Sorry that you think calling out Israelis for genociding Palestinians is praise.

                    Why should anyone believe you when all you do is carry water for people who sell them weapons?

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          And yet the leftists accomplish nothing other than empowering the right through their weaponized political ineptitude. They are not fit to gatekeep liberals from political action.

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            And yet the leftists accomplish nothing other than empowering the right through their weaponized political ineptitude

            Like all those elections liberals are winning. Oh wait.

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              😂 Leftists out here pitting the Dems into a two-front war because Dems didn’t provide a post-pandemic Marxist revolution with a 50-50 Senate, then trying to say they should be winning more elections if they want support. Hysterical.

              They did just in just the last 12 months expand a liberal supreme court majority in WI, have the first statewide wins in GA against incumbent republicans since 2006, flip a TX state senate district where Trump had won 58-41, and flip the FL state house district where Mar a Lago is.

              But leftists:

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                Leftists out here pitting the Dems into a two-front war

                Democrats should stop fighting the left, then.

                Dems didn’t provide a post-pandemic Marxist revolution with a 50-50 Senate

                They got the one thing you wanted done. They sold weapons for genocide.

                flip a TX state senate district where Trump had won 58-41,

                That was one of the progressive candidates you hate.

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                  You’re collapsing progressives and leftists and just making my policy positions up in your head because otherwise your point falls apart.

                  A progressive Democrat winning a red seat inside the party (as in working with and within the party like Rehmet did) is not proof that Democrats should “stop attacking the left.” It’s proof that better Democrats, even progressives in the party, can win and don’t need to resort to attacking their own potential coalition partners in the rest of the party.

                  Also, if you have to rewrite my position as “I support genocide and hate everything that tries to upend the status quo” to answer me, you’re not rebutting me. You’re constructing a straw man.

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                    You’re collapsing progressives and leftists

                    and you’re collapsing progressives and centrists.

                    A progressive Democrat winning a red seat inside the party (as in working with and within the party like Rehmet did) is not proof that Democrats should “stop attacking the left.”

                    I doubt there’s much you would consider evidence that the party should stop attacking those to your left like they did with Mamdani.

                    It’s proof that better Democrats, even progressives in the party, can win and don’t need to resort to attacking their own potential coalition partners in the rest of the party.

                    I mean, the animosity didn’t come out of nowhere. This has been going on for decades, and it’s not progressives who betrayed the center.

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            They are not fit to gatekeep liberals from political action.

            Liberals don’t take political action. They prevent it. With one notable exception, in which they get out of their own way.