• domusaltera@piefed.social
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    4 hours ago

    Have you noticed the push at the moment to try to create a moral argument AGAINST talking about the Epstein files? That’s straight out of the disinfo playbook. “C’mon guys, not everything is about the Epstein files. You’re so obsessed. Let’s move on guys, c’mon” etc.

    It’s also such an easily countered argument. Something can be two things. The war is awful AND Donald Trump being a pedo rapist is ALSO awful.

    I’m pretty confident though that his deep involvement with Epstein and all the crimes he committed are pretty baked into people’s consciousnesses by now though. Whatever he does, the ghost of Epstein will be waiting for him at the end.

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      Yeah, its both. Its terrible that Donald “Epstein Pedophile” Trump killed all those people with bombs.

      Its honeslty almost MORE terrible that other people killed all those people with bombs at the will of Donald “Epstein Pedophile” Trump

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      Oh for fucks sake liberals are utterly pathetic.

      Talk about the fucking Epstein files all you want, go for it. Better yet fucking act on it and do something to stop the Epstein class.

      But none of that changes the fact that US imperialism is at play, not a distraction from the files.

      There is zero repercussions for the files, and as such there is zero need for a distraction. His cultists won’t change their stance after all that’s come out, and if there was a smoking bombshell it would still receive international coverage despite Venezuela or Iran.

      Lie to yourself that this isn’t business as usual and it’s just a distraction from the files, but don’t do that shit here.

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        Oh for fucks sake liberals are utterly pathetic.

        Why is the person you replied to a liberal?

        Can we stop with this bullshit? A leftist can have a disagreement with you about leftism and still be a leftist. Enough with this constant self-defeating bullshit.

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        Have you read a word they said? You say

        Lie to yourself that this isn’t business as usual and it’s just a distraction from the files

        When they’re literally saying that it can be two things at once. Obviously they think this is business as usual, and it’s also a distraction. You’re agreeing with each other. There’s no reason to be arguing here…

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          Did you? They did not concede this was standard Americana, they said “the war is awful” - which no fucking duh it is, that’s not the argument.

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            Just because they did not concede it exactly in that comment, does not mean they believe what you’re accusing them off. I’m pretty sure if you were to ask them if this was standard America, they would say “of course”.

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              Considering their first instinct was to come in argue that this is all disinformation to distract from the files, I fully believe that is what they meant.

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        When people say “its a distraction” it doesn’t mean “we can’t/don’t talk about it.”. It means themass media news etc are NOT talking about it so idiots like MAGA forget it exists.