You know that the streamer is right. Just because other occupational hazards are worse does not mean theirs are invalid. And loads of streamers are barely scraping by.
Yeah, obviously there are worse jobs and steamers who love what they do, but I can’t think of a better way to ruin any enjoyment I had for gaming.
Mad respect for the ones who are on for 10 hours every day of the week for years straight, and somehow still manage to be healthy and have a family. I couldn’t do it.
Honestly it goes deeper than that. I’m part of a very small streamer community and the two biggest points of exhaustion are actually just community management and the platforms themselves.
You can be having an absolute blast playing games, bullshitting with chat, whatever else, and then ONE person can come in and ruin the entire vibe. The two big ones are people “um, ackshually"ing a joke you make or someone deciding to trauma dump into a 10+ person conversation to fish for compliments. The amount of times one of the streamers is vibing, making jokes, chat is blowing up and someone comes in like” I hate myself I want to die please compliment me and make me feel better while you’re live :'(" is insane. Just zero self awareness and you can’t just ignore someone writing what sounds like the first half of a suicide note so suddenly you flip from entertainer to therapist. For larger streamers this comes in the form of random groups of people deciding they don’t just hate you but actively want to sabotage you through stream sniping, harassment, doxxing, etc…
The platforms are just as bad. Having to constantly fear that any accident in a game gets you banned is just such a suffocating experience. This is worse in games with open mics where it’s your responsibility to police, mute, whatever else the random outbursts of hate speech and slurs. Heaven forbid you’re playing a game that suddenly surprises you with nudity or something else and you’re left wondering if you’re gonna get flagged by TOS because it arbitrarily wasn’t artistic enough. Lord have mercy on your soul if you stream something from Nintendo - - who seemingly just rolls a die once a month to decide which random community built around their games they want to Thanos snap out of existence.
The ones that do it so much dosen’t really have time for a healthy family life. This is why northernlion is the only normal streamer. He streams like for 6hr mon-fri, take vacations every once in a while and take care of himself and his family
I can assure you that there is a lot more psychological and physical strain in monotonous physical work.
A month in a factory made me appreciate my desk job in IT like nothing else in the world. Obviously burn out exists and destroys your motivation and ability to do things.
If someone has their leg broken with bone sticking out and another person who fell and now has a broken skin on their hands I should assume they feel more or less the same and shouldn’t compare?
So we shouldn’t compare some but should compare other types of suffering?
I mean there are far more challenging and demading types of work that don’t require physical labour. Streeming/being youtube personality is one of the least demanding and challenging work there is.
Also, Hasan is not “barely scraping by”. He’s a multi millionaire who could end the “soul sucking” by turning off his money font, but he doesn’t want to. It’s a slog for small streamers absolutely, but let’s not pretend like Hasan has any right to call his own job “soul-sucking” when he could retire in comfort, nay, luxury for the rest of his life at any time he chooses.
He is speaking on mental load. Assuming a person in the spotlight of the public has a similar set of challenges compared to a regular worker is dismissive.
Doesn’t mean they are worse of. Just means that some things can be hard.
Not only is the concept of a million dollar streamer having a worse mental load than your average working class schmo completely asinine, but that isn’t what the quote is saying in the context provided.
In the context provided (assuming its an accurate quote and context), Has an is asserting he has a worse mental load than your average working class Joe who works a traditional job for meager wages.
That is absolute bullshit. Its not delegitamizing or downplaying a millionaire streamer’s mental load to call that bullshit either. Its just fact.
This man could walk away at any time and still be set for life. Hell, he was already rich before he even picked up streaming. And you compare that to a worker who is one injury away from his family starving?
The problem with the statement(which I have no idea if it’s true or someone just made this for rage bait) is that it’s making a ranked comparison saying streaming sucks more than regular jobs, so it antagonizes the working class as it jumps into a misery competition.
It’s divisive, when instead we should be uniting under the reality that standards of living are shit due to wealth inequality. The statement in the image instead just divides us more.
People are struggling, and hearing someone say “I have it worse than you” is not helping. We have to be demanding our governments and political parties for solutions that address wealth inequality which is causing lower living standards and causing the general discontent.
Y’know if you’re so jealous of streamers there’s nothing stopping you from downloading an app on your phone and trying it out.
Every job and every career has aspects that suck, and different people excel at handling those different types of suck. At my work I support people who do industrial sanitation. Literally the stuff you’d see on the TV show Dirty Jobs, while I sit in my cushy home office working about 6 projects at a time keeping the servers and databases happy and secure. Just about every day I have a conversation with the folks I support where they say something about how they could never do my job, and I reply with the exact same sentiment.
Very easy to point to the Michael Jordan of streaming at his peak and say “This is actually very easy and so lucrative, why would anyone complain?” while ignoring the depths of ignominy endured by the dregs of the podcasting industry, a la Adam Friedland.
But also there are so many people trying to become streamers. You don’t automatically have the right to make it just because you try streaming. Only a small hand of people provide entertainment for most. I get the struggle but maybe if you’re not successful or don’t make a living wage while attempting full-time you should just go back to a normal job. Just saying.
You know that the streamer is right. Just because other occupational hazards are worse does not mean theirs are invalid. And loads of streamers are barely scraping by.
Yeah, obviously there are worse jobs and steamers who love what they do, but I can’t think of a better way to ruin any enjoyment I had for gaming.
Mad respect for the ones who are on for 10 hours every day of the week for years straight, and somehow still manage to be healthy and have a family. I couldn’t do it.
Just for clarity, I couldn’t stack those bricks very well either.
Honestly it goes deeper than that. I’m part of a very small streamer community and the two biggest points of exhaustion are actually just community management and the platforms themselves.
You can be having an absolute blast playing games, bullshitting with chat, whatever else, and then ONE person can come in and ruin the entire vibe. The two big ones are people “um, ackshually"ing a joke you make or someone deciding to trauma dump into a 10+ person conversation to fish for compliments. The amount of times one of the streamers is vibing, making jokes, chat is blowing up and someone comes in like” I hate myself I want to die please compliment me and make me feel better while you’re live :'(" is insane. Just zero self awareness and you can’t just ignore someone writing what sounds like the first half of a suicide note so suddenly you flip from entertainer to therapist. For larger streamers this comes in the form of random groups of people deciding they don’t just hate you but actively want to sabotage you through stream sniping, harassment, doxxing, etc…
The platforms are just as bad. Having to constantly fear that any accident in a game gets you banned is just such a suffocating experience. This is worse in games with open mics where it’s your responsibility to police, mute, whatever else the random outbursts of hate speech and slurs. Heaven forbid you’re playing a game that suddenly surprises you with nudity or something else and you’re left wondering if you’re gonna get flagged by TOS because it arbitrarily wasn’t artistic enough. Lord have mercy on your soul if you stream something from Nintendo - - who seemingly just rolls a die once a month to decide which random community built around their games they want to Thanos snap out of existence.
The ones that do it so much dosen’t really have time for a healthy family life. This is why northernlion is the only normal streamer. He streams like for 6hr mon-fri, take vacations every once in a while and take care of himself and his family
Also the best streamer/youtuber. Watched him since high school and still check in periodically.
As long as life is going you don’t have to scrape anything.
They can stop working in entertainment, it’s not like streamers are bound to a chair with a rope.
That’s not what this is about. This is about there being a psychological strain.
I can assure you that there is a lot more psychological and physical strain in monotonous physical work. A month in a factory made me appreciate my desk job in IT like nothing else in the world. Obviously burn out exists and destroys your motivation and ability to do things.
It’s different. You shouldn’t compare suffering.
If someone has their leg broken with bone sticking out and another person who fell and now has a broken skin on their hands I should assume they feel more or less the same and shouldn’t compare?
That’s not an apt comparison as we are comparing fundamentally different suffering/challenges.
So we shouldn’t compare some but should compare other types of suffering?
I mean there are far more challenging and demading types of work that don’t require physical labour. Streeming/being youtube personality is one of the least demanding and challenging work there is.
You shouldn’t compare different kinds of suffering as if they were suffering of the same kind.
A mangled arm is much different from being very severely depressed. Yet you might struggle to say which is worse.
Boo hoo?
Also, Hasan is not “barely scraping by”. He’s a multi millionaire who could end the “soul sucking” by turning off his money font, but he doesn’t want to. It’s a slog for small streamers absolutely, but let’s not pretend like Hasan has any right to call his own job “soul-sucking” when he could retire in comfort, nay, luxury for the rest of his life at any time he chooses.
Yeah, they’re not forced to stay in frame and shocked with a shock collar if they move or anything.
Has an isn’t right when referring to himself tho.
Has an is a multi millionaire. Anyone who thinks his profession is worse than a traditional working class job (including him) is fucking delusional.
He’s not saying it’s worse though.
Also being a millionaire is not like filthy rich, its like owning a house in a major city, or having a successful small business.
He is speaking on mental load. Assuming a person in the spotlight of the public has a similar set of challenges compared to a regular worker is dismissive.
Doesn’t mean they are worse of. Just means that some things can be hard.
Not only is the concept of a million dollar streamer having a worse mental load than your average working class schmo completely asinine, but that isn’t what the quote is saying in the context provided.
In the context provided (assuming its an accurate quote and context), Has an is asserting he has a worse mental load than your average working class Joe who works a traditional job for meager wages.
That is absolute bullshit. Its not delegitamizing or downplaying a millionaire streamer’s mental load to call that bullshit either. Its just fact.
This man could walk away at any time and still be set for life. Hell, he was already rich before he even picked up streaming. And you compare that to a worker who is one injury away from his family starving?
The problem with the statement(which I have no idea if it’s true or someone just made this for rage bait) is that it’s making a ranked comparison saying streaming sucks more than regular jobs, so it antagonizes the working class as it jumps into a misery competition.
It’s divisive, when instead we should be uniting under the reality that standards of living are shit due to wealth inequality. The statement in the image instead just divides us more.
People are struggling, and hearing someone say “I have it worse than you” is not helping. We have to be demanding our governments and political parties for solutions that address wealth inequality which is causing lower living standards and causing the general discontent.
It ranks the mental load of streaming and chat and job security. It doesn’t mean streaming is the hardest job on the mental. Just worse than average.
LoL the poor streamers barely scraping by from all the sitting at home doing nothing but yapping all day
Y’know if you’re so jealous of streamers there’s nothing stopping you from downloading an app on your phone and trying it out.
Every job and every career has aspects that suck, and different people excel at handling those different types of suck. At my work I support people who do industrial sanitation. Literally the stuff you’d see on the TV show Dirty Jobs, while I sit in my cushy home office working about 6 projects at a time keeping the servers and databases happy and secure. Just about every day I have a conversation with the folks I support where they say something about how they could never do my job, and I reply with the exact same sentiment.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about, it would be smart to stop talking and take the opportunity to learn
LoL won’t someone defend the streamers, you realize I’m making the same point that the post you are commenting under is making right
I’ll defend whoever’s actually right, fucking duh. What’s your point, that other people agree with you? Congrats on being popular and wrong
Very easy to point to the Michael Jordan of streaming at his peak and say “This is actually very easy and so lucrative, why would anyone complain?” while ignoring the depths of ignominy endured by the dregs of the podcasting industry, a la Adam Friedland.
But also there are so many people trying to become streamers. You don’t automatically have the right to make it just because you try streaming. Only a small hand of people provide entertainment for most. I get the struggle but maybe if you’re not successful or don’t make a living wage while attempting full-time you should just go back to a normal job. Just saying.
Who?