I think there is a lot to be said for the emotional load someone like Hasan deals with. We are talking thousands of death threats and vitriol, swatting, psyops, debate bros etc etc. The soul sucking is mental and different, not going to assume this was him saying he has it harder like this out of context meme is trying to portray.
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I don’t have any further context, but he’s got a point.
Sure, physical jobs are physically demanding and the monotony can be taxing. Even customer service jobs are mentally and emotionally taxing, but at the end of the day you’re just a rando in a uniform. You’re selling your skills and labor, you can be yourself off the clock.
Streaming is selling your personality, your perspectives, your values. With lots of viewers, you’re exposing yourself to criticism for every opinion you express. You basically live every day with your identity under the microscope of thousands of anonymous critics. Either you deal with constant character attacks, or you commodify your personality until it’s basically unrecognizable.
“Real jobs” don’t really attack your soul in the same way, because your soul isn’t the product. Aside from certain kinds of celebrities that are basically streamers anyway, it is a pretty unique struggle. At least actors are portraying characters, and can separate themselves from their roles. Streamers are the roles. The line between self and curated content is pretty heavily blurred, it really is a singular kind of soul-sucking.
Then just get a real job. Why doesn’t he take his own advice? Hmm…
what advice? there was no advice here, just a comment of consequences of the job.
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Every day I sit at my office desk and long for the days when honest work stocking shelves was my sole responsibility. It kept me active and it kept my mind occupied. I hate having an office job. I hate that I can’t eat junk food and I have to utilize my free time exercising. I hate my vapid and fake burgois coworkers. I hate the industry I’m in. I hate the politics. I hate the smell of the communal bathroom. I hate the finance bros. If I’m short on sleep, I always fantasize about the whole place burning down and the people I wouldn’t miss or even feel a modicum of empathy for. The office has soured my soul… it is a compete removal of the human from their natural environment and purpose.
Haters gonna hate
I mean, if you ignore the constant advocacy he does for rank and file workers and unions, alongside his repeated acknowledgement of his privilege, this would be a legitimate criticism if you left out the “in the same way” as well.
I keep saying that actual literacy is a required prerequisite to media literacy… pretty scary how many people functionally can’t read these days.
Who is he?
Hasan Piker, a left wing political commentator on the internet, who’s popular among the 18-35 set
Performative politics is all the rage.
In all seriousness, you can’t entrust political significance to character-deficient, uneducated dingdongs with no commitment to reality.
Hassan is a socialist at random. He’s utterly philosophically illiterate, so his positions are a flip of the coin. You might say, “fine, let’s use that,” and I agree - as long as you don’t lose sight of the fact that he’s a barely sentient pile of shit.
Wow it’s almost like it’s impossible to have 100% consistency across 12 hours a day of talking…
He’s consistenty a fucking tool in certain opinions and continues to double-down on the worst takes. Also an animal abuser.
Anyone here calling Piker an animal abuser is either someone who’s been fooled by grifters, or an absolutely gross liar.
See video for yourself here : https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dqexB1-3TOA
Why are people hating on this guy? GREAT QUESTION.
Well, you see - there’s a bunch of really gross right wingers who hate him, as well as grifting streamers (including some sex pests who have gotten into ACTUAL trouble) who don’t like this specific commentator who’ve tried to discredit him and in a moment where the guy’s very well-treated and absolutely beloved dog apparently hurt her paw or something and they were able to edit out of context, intentionally misinterpret, and then convince their hordes of followers to make memes of the moment and share everywhere and comment in every thread mentioning the guy. There’s also really sour grapes from noted internet meme comedy guy H3H3 - who had a podcast called “Leftovers” with Hasan for a while until they had a falling out post-October 7th who also has had it out for the guy ever since then.
…But you don’t have to take my word for it.
There are plenty of other left-wing and even just centrist types, like Medhi Hasan, the Pod Johns - aka Obama’s former speech writer guys that formed a podcast network years later, Kyle Kulinski, Jennifer Welch (aka the former neolib wine-mom queen turned leftist), Sam Seder and his crew at the Majority Report all vouch for the guy.
Hell, even Zohran Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, and AOC are all cool with Hasan Piker.
Hey, nice copy-pasta. I don’t care for your argument of authority. That dog was not having a good time staying in place for hours. In Europe we might care about animal welfare a bit more, than y’all do.
Source on all that?
Literally everything he’s said on Russia’s war in Ukraine. His worship of China. Animal abuse due to a powered (both electric shocks and vibrations are immoral imo) collar. Being an authoritarian cock-sucker generally.
What has he said about the Ukraine war?
He seems to give Russia the benefit of the doubt quite a bit. Him being wrong about Russia not attacking Ukraine would be fine, but he’s been on the pessimistic side when it comes to Ukraine’s chances from what I’ve seen. (I’m not saying the Ukrainian government is great, to be clear)
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Y’all laugh. But being a celebrity is something people are not prepared for. It really is a curse for folks. I’d never want that life. As much money as I would make.
Honestly the more I hear Hassan quotes the more I like him.
That makes sense based on your instance
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You know that the streamer is right. Just because other occupational hazards are worse does not mean theirs are invalid. And loads of streamers are barely scraping by.
The problem with the statement(which I have no idea if it’s true or someone just made this for rage bait) is that it’s making a ranked comparison saying streaming sucks more than regular jobs, so it antagonizes the working class as it jumps into a misery competition.
It’s divisive, when instead we should be uniting under the reality that standards of living are shit due to wealth inequality. The statement in the image instead just divides us more.
People are struggling, and hearing someone say “I have it worse than you” is not helping. We have to be demanding our governments and political parties for solutions that address wealth inequality which is causing lower living standards and causing the general discontent.
It ranks the mental load of streaming and chat and job security. It doesn’t mean streaming is the hardest job on the mental. Just worse than average.
Yeah, obviously there are worse jobs and steamers who love what they do, but I can’t think of a better way to ruin any enjoyment I had for gaming.
Mad respect for the ones who are on for 10 hours every day of the week for years straight, and somehow still manage to be healthy and have a family. I couldn’t do it.
Just for clarity, I couldn’t stack those bricks very well either.
Honestly it goes deeper than that. I’m part of a very small streamer community and the two biggest points of exhaustion are actually just community management and the platforms themselves.
You can be having an absolute blast playing games, bullshitting with chat, whatever else, and then ONE person can come in and ruin the entire vibe. The two big ones are people “um, ackshually"ing a joke you make or someone deciding to trauma dump into a 10+ person conversation to fish for compliments. The amount of times one of the streamers is vibing, making jokes, chat is blowing up and someone comes in like” I hate myself I want to die please compliment me and make me feel better while you’re live :'(" is insane. Just zero self awareness and you can’t just ignore someone writing what sounds like the first half of a suicide note so suddenly you flip from entertainer to therapist. For larger streamers this comes in the form of random groups of people deciding they don’t just hate you but actively want to sabotage you through stream sniping, harassment, doxxing, etc…
The platforms are just as bad. Having to constantly fear that any accident in a game gets you banned is just such a suffocating experience. This is worse in games with open mics where it’s your responsibility to police, mute, whatever else the ra do outbursts of hate speech and slurs. Heaven forbid you’re playing a game that suddenly surprises you with nudity or something else and you’re left wondering if you’re gonna get flagged by TOS because it arbitrarily wasn’t artistic enough. Heaven forbid you stream something from Nintendo who just rolls a die once a day and assassinates a random community built around their games.
The ones that do it so much dosen’t really have time for a healthy family life. This is why northernlion is the only normal streamer. He streams like for 6hr mon-fri, take vacations every once in a while and take care of himself and his family
Also the best streamer/youtuber. Watched him since high school and still check in periodically.
They can stop working in entertainment, it’s not like streamers are bound to a chair with a rope.
That’s not what this is about. This is about there being a psychological strain.
I can assire you that there is a lot morr psychological and physical strain in monotonous physical work. A month in a factory made me appreciate my desk job in IT like nothing else in the world. Obviously burn out exists and destroys your motivation and ability to do things.
Also, Hasan is not “barely scraping by”. He’s a multi millionaire who could end the “soul sucking” by turning off his money font, but he doesn’t want to. It’s a slog for small streamers absolutely, but let’s not pretend like Hasan has any right to call his own job “soul-sucking” when he could retire in comfort, nay, luxury for the rest of his life at any time he chooses.
Very easy to point to the Michael Jordan of streaming at his peak and say “This is actually very easy and so lucrative, why would anyone complain?” while ignoring the depths of ignominy endured by the dregs of the podcasting industry, a la Adam Friedland.
Who?
But also there are so many people trying to become streamers. You don’t automatically have the right to make it just because you try streaming. Only a small hand of people provide entertainment for most. I get the struggle but maybe if you’re not successful or don’t make a living wage while attempting full-time you should just go back to a normal job. Just saying.
“A real job” I guess does a lot of work here.
There’s nothing more demoralizing than being on a “make work” job, where you’re so silod off from the world there’s no connection from what you do to any meaningful outcome.
And that defines an incredibly large chunk of corporate jobs.
It’s why in goulogs and concentration camps they make prisoners break rocks.
also “in the same way” - that’s a broad net
Yeah, I think the reason behind the work plays a big role in our perception of it. If we are building an earthen wall to protect our friends and family from invaders, there is a finite amount of work that ends with a sense of accomplishment. If we are looking through the corporation’s quarterly reports in order to become a fraction of a percent more profitable, the work continues forever and the end result is meaningless.
“Being on standby” is torture.
No. Give me task. Let me do it. Let me be done.
In addition the physical direct aspect of the wall building. At least for me any manufacturing job suits exactly because at the end of the day there’s a literal physical representation of what i did. Later going to the store and having the recognition when seeing something i made.
There was no such connection when trying out office jobs or basically anything else besides manufacturing. Just doing some completely meaningless task the whole day and best case scenario is some random numbers going up.
So while manufacturing is physically tiring, office jobs are soul sucking and client service is just hell in all aspects.
I thought this would get a lot more hate 😔
Yeah Lemmy has a huge community of brick layers you got lucky.
In the quote he’s not saying other jobs don’t suck out your soul, just that it’s different.
In a vacuum, not knowing this guy or the rest of his statement, I don’t see anything obviously wrong with that he’s saying.
They take a mental toll on you in different ways, but they all take a mental toll, is what he seems to be saying, and I find that reasonable.
There are people who think trying to make a career as an entertainer (like in streaming) doesn’t take any toll on you at all, and that’s a misunderstanding we should dispell.
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people who get made about this need to take a step back and think about it without their assumptions of implications
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Many real jobs, especially low income ones do in fact suck the soul out of you. I have tried for y’all.
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