Centrists being ignored again.
This polarization is the problem. It should be possible to talk about actual issues and possible solutions across political lines. Campism fucking sucks.
Centrists are right wing.
I know it’s hard to imagine to hardened ideologues like yourself, but some people think right and left have good solutions and blind spots for certain problems. They engage with topics and discourse, investigate the scientific evidence, are capable of nuance and compromise, are able to calm their emotions, etc.
Okay, name a good right wing solution to a current problem?
People who become right wing because they’re annoyed by leftists believe in nothing and are just looking for a tribe that makes them feel good.
My team win go football yay
Yep you annoyed me so I have no values.
I would be annoyed by leftist also if I was an american. American leftists are like right wing on european scale and right wing is so far right they keep shooting their own for not being far right enough.
Republicans love a conversion story.
“I was a leftist on the Road to Damascus when I got mugged by reality and now I think Donald Trump is a sexy himbo who will bring about a new American Golden Age. Please buy my merch and subscribe to my podcast.”
Virtually every high profile conservative has a “Why I Left The Left” tagline in their biography. Some of it, I think, goes back to the Nixon/Reagan Era when you really did have a bunch of FDR Dixiecrats selling out to corporate Republicans.
Reagan himself - something of the Joe Rogan of his era - would happily parrot whatever ideology was whispered in his ear. So he went from a Vulgar Marxist during his early Hollywood days, got that top-shelf Nancy head game while his wife wasn’t looking, and converted to MAGA Republicanism in the 1960s. Subsequent national Republicans just repeated this story to their base voters after swapping themselves into their Dear Leader’s role.
More bizarrely, college Trotskyite groups were an absolute hive of neoconservatism. Everyone from William F. Buckley to William Kristol to Richard Bruce Cheney came out of these nominally leftist groups, found religion in Big Business, and swore their souls to Mammon during their early 30s.
And you’ve got guys like Donald Trump who was a loyal Democrat and big party donor from his early days straight into 2007, when the party decided to nominate a black guy for President over his boo Hillary. Then, suddenly, he discovered he actually hated Democrats all along.
But a lot of it is just bullshit. Saying you were a dumb kid who was tricked into agreeing with Weather Underground by Fake News, until someone handed them a Bible with a copy of Atlas Shrugged stapled to it. And then THAT CHANGE EVERYTHING. It’s a classic hit of the Republican genre.
I remember in the 80s and early 90s it was very popular for preachers (especially youth ministers) to have a conversion story. Like they were out doing drugs or eating babies and Jesus came to them to call them.
Youth ministers were generally more hilarious. I wish I had a nickel for every time one of them talked about how they wrestled every day with homosexual thoughts and used to give handjobs to truckers in truck stop bathrooms or whatever (ok, that’s hyperbolic but I think it’s funny). “Everyone” struggles with those kinds of thoughts we just have to resist Satan.
Motherfucker what? Am I so righteous that god said I don’t need to be tempted or am I so evil that it wouldn’t matter, because I’ve never looked at a dude and thought “Yep, gonna split him in half”.
Shit up… you are so fucking annoying.
Yep, fucked that joke up but going to leave it
“Shit up!” Sounds like something you’d say in a pep talk. Like before a big game or something. “OKAY GUYS, TIME TO SHIT UP!” “YEAH SHIT UP” “LETS SHIT UP!”
Thanks for making me laugh about myself. No better med than to have a little joke at yourself! Going to start using it in my local neighborhood tennis matches!
Okay if I try this on my wife she’d think I made it up. I like it. You may have started a thing. “Shit the up fuck!” is how i am going to expand it.
Its like a terrible translation.
Suit up, get your shit together!
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Shit up!
Shit up!
Leftists and right wingers are natural enemies. Like leftists and centrists. And leftists and leftists! Damn leftists, they ruined the left!
Seems the group of not radicalised and Not ideologically posessed ist too small or, as OP Put it, weak minded to do something about them.
If you change your whole belief structure because another believer was rude to you, you never believed it, you just wanted to belong to a club.
Doesn’t even need to be rude. Some people simply can’t handle getting their position/perspective challenged.
I dream about being in a world where I was not that leftist anymore because so many people would be that more leftist than me, that I would be kind of conservative for them. But the world should be the one that changes. I’m not gonna. At a point I thought we were going into that direction.
