Leaker here is Brad Lynch, who generally seems reliable as a leaker for Valve software and products. He was also the source for the leaked renders of the steam controller.

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    Same. I desperately hope they release a version with the regular thumbstick layout instead of the PlayStation layout that’s on the Deck.

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      “Regular” thumbstick layout? PlayStation’s was first.

      EDIT: I see you edited your comment to remove “regular”. Thank you! I’ve always been able to use either kind just fine, but I do prefer symmetrical, probably because I play a lot of 2D games and actually use the d-pad.

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        lol who cares who’s first if we’re going with who’s thumbstick layout was first then it’s n64 and I think we agree nobody wants that

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          1. Wii, Wii U, and Steam Deck (soon Steam Controller) did it that way

          2. N64 wasn’t dual analog, so not relevant since it wasn’t symmetrical or asymmetrical.

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              The layout was very very non standard and had a single stick. I’m smoking a lot of weed but I can tell you the n64 controller doesn’t count here.

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                I said it was first I didn’t say it was standard BUT I’m curious how something that’s literally the only one of it’s kind at the time of release was nonstandard lol

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              Why would a single analog stick be relevant in a discussion of whether symmetrical or asymmetrical analog sticks are “regular”?

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              I’ll just include consoles that came with symmetrical or asymmetrical for simplicity’s sake:

              Symmetrical:

              PS2: 160 million

              PS3: 87 million

              PS4: 117 million

              PS5: 92 million

              Wii U: 14 million

              Symmetrical total: 470 million

              Asymmetrical:

              Xbox: 24 million

              Xbox 360: 84 million

              Xbox One: 58 million

              Xbox Series X: 35 million

              Gamecube: 21 million

              Switch: 155 million

              Switch 2: 17 million

              Asymmetrical total: 394 million

              More people have played on symmetrical controllers than asymmetrical.

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        The PS1 controller was my first real PC controller btw, with an adapter! Back then it was such a blast to play emulation with such a great controller. As other PC controllers sucked for the most part.

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          It was kind of a pain to find a good controller for PC back in the day. It was nice when standard console controllers just worked with it.

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        This controller was peak design. I was using a DS3 as my go to pc controller for years before the sticks died.

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          I keep rebuilding the same DS4 controller as it’s ideal as a PC controller, both wired and Bluetooth protocol. But it keeps breaking or wearing down on me and parts keep going up in price and the dang thing is getting beat up. I looked into the 8-bitdo controllers but I didn’t care for the only one they had with the DS layout, their retro one.

          I’ll heavily consider the Steam Controller 2 if the price and quality is right.

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            I love every 8bitdo I own. The pro2 is great, aside from the Nintendo face button labels, it’s become my daily driver and dev controller.

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              Did your 8bitdo only have nintendo buttons as an option? I was able to pick from three designs for my 8bitdo pro 2

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              I’m the opposite, Xbox button labels drive me crazy. I learned the layout on the SNES, so it’s hard for me to adjust. I’ve gotten better since playing more PC games on my Steam Deck since the XBox layout is the default, though I always choose PS button prompts if the game has the option.

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                Universal glyphs are better imo. In my head I call them north, south, east, west instead of a, b, x, y (I’m pretty sure that’s how the facebuttons are labeled in the Linux kernel, regardless of Xbox,Nintendo,ps)

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                  Yes, universal is also good. I like the PS layout because it uses shapes rather than the same letters in different places, though you of course have to memorize which letters are which buttons.

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              Roommate has one and I didn’t like the feel as much as the DS4 and the DS4 is cheaper than the DS5. But I had been considering the DS4 over the 8-bitdo, and this is so minor, but I liked that the DS controllers had the speaker compatibility with Death Stranding 1 and 2 to add some little sound effects to the game. Tho those are the only two games I’ve seen it work with on the PC so it’s so so minor.

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      The PlayStation controller is the same as a SNES controller, but with two sticks and finger grips.

      Xbox took thier controller design from the Dreamcast. Which came out long after the SNES, and before the xbox.