Refer to the meme again. I swear it’s like arguing with a toddler. I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US. I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
No human being deserves to live under a boot. I don’t care which boot smells better
I grew up in the South hearing all about the evil big government yankees destroying our culture and way of life (“an entire civilization, Gone With the Wind”), trying to force everybody to obey the central authority in Washington - nevermind how the states treated people, that’s their business, we don’t need big government coming in and “meddling in our affairs.” The labor conditions in the factories up north were pretty bad too, so “both sides.”
Take all those arguments, go to the other side of the world, and couch them in leftist terminology like “imperialism” and “colonialism,” and you’ve got liberals with Tibet. Can’t talk sense into them anymore than you can talk sense into a redneck whining about Lost Cause shit. Keep people in chains and call anyone who tries to break those chains an authoritarian, as if the “rights” of states to oppress people matter more than rights of people to be free. It’s literally the exact same playbook.
“Tankie” is just how “big government liberal” translates to a different demographic.
I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US.
The US is not what I’m referring to with “slaver theocracy.” I know all y’all are ignorant of history, but can you really be that ignorant?
I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
No human being deserves to live under a boot
Well, unless that boot belongs to a lama, apparently. Then they’re allowed to force you to work in chains until you die at 30 and anyone who tries to do anything about it, you’ll denounce as an “imperialist” and accuse of “murder” and “genocide.” Then you suddenly become perfectly fine with authoritarianism and think people should live under that lama’s boot forever.
Hey good news you’re now free. You better stop having your religion, your language, or your culture. Otherwise we will throw you in the skeleton river bone pile. Please say thank you or you guessed it bone pile.
Maybe we strive to support counties that don’t turn people into bone piles or slaves? Just a thought, you won’t get it though
Lol none of those things are remotely true. Tibetans are free to practice Buddhism and the vast majority speak their own language, as they were taught in public schools. If anything, there are almost certainly more people fluent than there were when the lamas were in charge, the serfs weren’t exactly taught to read and write in any language.
Maybe we strive to support counties that don’t turn people into bone piles or slaves?
That’s a good thought, you should try it sometime. Which makes me wonder, again, why you’re still bearing a grudge over a slaver theocracy being ended 70 years ago.
Sure today, back then it was straight to the bone pile or boarding schools. You could say the same about the Native Americans. Doesn’t mean they didn’t expirence an active and ongoing genocide until recently. Doesn’t suddenly make those past actions go away.
You wouldn’t paint the conqistadors as saviors, but they ended a slave empire that practiced human sacrifice. Doesn’t absolve them of what they did after.
If China did this for the good of Tibet they wouldn’t have been annexed. Nor would they have had all of their resources exploited. But you know what’s a little colonialism, as long as your side does it right?
They didn’t “annex” Tibet because Tibet had already been a part of China for the past 200 years. That’s like calling the Civil War “colonialism” because the Union “annexed” the Confederacy.
This shit about Native Americans is pure projection. Native languages are in danger, in a way the Tibetan language is not and never has been. All you’re doing is taking something the West did and saying, “Well China must have done this too” with nothing to back it up.
Right a power drawing a line on a map claiming land and then enforcing that claim via violence totally isn’t colonialism.
Do yourself a favor and don’t look into the linguistic history of what is today China. You will see an impressive number of languages that became extinct in the past 100 years.
The Navajo language, like the Tibetan language, is doing well today too. Doesn’t change the history. It’s like you are unable to look at history you find inconvenient. I don’t defend the brutalization of indeginious populations, you do for some odd reason. Oh right you’re an imperialist authoritarian
Please refer to the meme if this is still too hard for you
Right a power drawing a line on a map claiming land and then enforcing that claim via violence totally isn’t colonialism.
That’s every state that has ever existed or could theoretically exist, lol. That’s not what colonialism is.
I don’t defend the brutalization of indeginious populations, you do for some odd reason.
The only people who’s “brutalization” I’m defending are slaver theocrats, who’s authoritarian boots you’re licking. The indigenous population was being brutalized before, and fared much better after the revolution.
Refer to the meme again. I swear it’s like arguing with a toddler. I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US. I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
No human being deserves to live under a boot. I don’t care which boot smells better
Imagine how they are feeling arguing with you, making up crazy imaginary scenarios in your head and refusing to explain them.
Par for the course.
I grew up in the South hearing all about the evil big government yankees destroying our culture and way of life (“an entire civilization, Gone With the Wind”), trying to force everybody to obey the central authority in Washington - nevermind how the states treated people, that’s their business, we don’t need big government coming in and “meddling in our affairs.” The labor conditions in the factories up north were pretty bad too, so “both sides.”
Take all those arguments, go to the other side of the world, and couch them in leftist terminology like “imperialism” and “colonialism,” and you’ve got liberals with Tibet. Can’t talk sense into them anymore than you can talk sense into a redneck whining about Lost Cause shit. Keep people in chains and call anyone who tries to break those chains an authoritarian, as if the “rights” of states to oppress people matter more than rights of people to be free. It’s literally the exact same playbook.
“Tankie” is just how “big government liberal” translates to a different demographic.
Lmao, I didn’t engage with their nonsense arguements and that prompted them to make up more. It was entertaining to say the least.
A better equivalent is arguing with a flat earther. There’s no point since they start with a preconceived notion
The US is not what I’m referring to with “slaver theocracy.” I know all y’all are ignorant of history, but can you really be that ignorant?
Well, unless that boot belongs to a lama, apparently. Then they’re allowed to force you to work in chains until you die at 30 and anyone who tries to do anything about it, you’ll denounce as an “imperialist” and accuse of “murder” and “genocide.” Then you suddenly become perfectly fine with authoritarianism and think people should live under that lama’s boot forever.
Complete lie, you love this flavor of boot:
Hey good news you’re now free. You better stop having your religion, your language, or your culture. Otherwise we will throw you in the skeleton river bone pile. Please say thank you or you guessed it bone pile.
Maybe we strive to support counties that don’t turn people into bone piles or slaves? Just a thought, you won’t get it though
Lol none of those things are remotely true. Tibetans are free to practice Buddhism and the vast majority speak their own language, as they were taught in public schools. If anything, there are almost certainly more people fluent than there were when the lamas were in charge, the serfs weren’t exactly taught to read and write in any language.
That’s a good thought, you should try it sometime. Which makes me wonder, again, why you’re still bearing a grudge over a slaver theocracy being ended 70 years ago.
Sure today, back then it was straight to the bone pile or boarding schools. You could say the same about the Native Americans. Doesn’t mean they didn’t expirence an active and ongoing genocide until recently. Doesn’t suddenly make those past actions go away.
You wouldn’t paint the conqistadors as saviors, but they ended a slave empire that practiced human sacrifice. Doesn’t absolve them of what they did after.
If China did this for the good of Tibet they wouldn’t have been annexed. Nor would they have had all of their resources exploited. But you know what’s a little colonialism, as long as your side does it right?
They didn’t “annex” Tibet because Tibet had already been a part of China for the past 200 years. That’s like calling the Civil War “colonialism” because the Union “annexed” the Confederacy.
This shit about Native Americans is pure projection. Native languages are in danger, in a way the Tibetan language is not and never has been. All you’re doing is taking something the West did and saying, “Well China must have done this too” with nothing to back it up.
Right a power drawing a line on a map claiming land and then enforcing that claim via violence totally isn’t colonialism.
Do yourself a favor and don’t look into the linguistic history of what is today China. You will see an impressive number of languages that became extinct in the past 100 years.
The Navajo language, like the Tibetan language, is doing well today too. Doesn’t change the history. It’s like you are unable to look at history you find inconvenient. I don’t defend the brutalization of indeginious populations, you do for some odd reason. Oh right you’re an imperialist authoritarian
Please refer to the meme if this is still too hard for you
That’s every state that has ever existed or could theoretically exist, lol. That’s not what colonialism is.
The only people who’s “brutalization” I’m defending are slaver theocrats, who’s authoritarian boots you’re licking. The indigenous population was being brutalized before, and fared much better after the revolution.
Oh right the old everyone kills their neighbors defense so all genocide is a-ok.
Yeah no, I hold the modern world to a higher standard than that sorry.
Feels like you are finally admitting to the imperialism at least