“can you make this green a little bit more like the feeling of biting a butterfly? and also rewrite the copy to make it more crunchy. You have 1 hour, yes I know it’s 3am”
No, I’ve only ever heard things like that in a comedy sketch making fun of art. I guess I went to a better art school than you. Was your award given by journalists or artists?
none of those things you said were criticisms, they were all commands. That would never get said at an art school because they couldn’t give 2 shits what you hand in because it’s all about how you defend your bullshit art in a critique.
Engineers tend to get trapped between their calipers. They need to look holistically at the entire package. They need to play with things and think about their meaning and purpose. They need to analyze their decisions in the context of the human experience. They need to be free to experiment without technical restraints so they can push against the boundaries of what’s “possible”. Art is fast and fun. Design is smotth and calculated.
This guy is the perfect example. He gets this “great idea”, mills up a giant block of aluminum, spends 10 days faffing around, then throws it in the bin and starts over. Dude needs to sketch some shit and play with cardboard and clay and get his thoughts together before running to spin up his favorite tool.
perhaps your subjective experience is not the same as mine, and similarly, what I’ve experienced is not as universal as I hoped and my joking little comment about what it’s like to get unusual feedback doesn’t land with you - or anyone perhaps on this forum
and thats OK. My apologies if it didn’t resonate, but also I don’t think either of us will get any more out of bickering.
Perhaps I can back too harsh, but I hear that response anytime I bring up art in front of engineers. It isn’t funny, is mainly lies and is meant to denegrate the whole occupation of art. If you’re an artist hold the standard higher please.
As someone who did go to engineering school, I did not read funkless_eck’s comment as denigrating artists, in any way. I read it as denigrating the unrealistic requests made by art-illiterate clients.
Both their and Captain Aggrevated’s comments where about the unrealistic stresses put on their professions by the subject-illiterate colleagues/clients. They’re highlighting the pain, which is cathartic but not how a real class would work; however, I didn’t assume they’re in here seriously proposing new pedagogy. This is the internet.
Humanities and Shop classes that teach the basics of other professions show that even the basics are more complex than an outsider would assume. So, yeah, engineers should round out their curriculum so they don’t become jag-offs that expect unrealistic expectations.
I don’t know what class you missed though, because you took a joke aimed at those dismissing your profession and chose to internalize it instead. Talk about playing to type; the self-obssessed artiste. If you’re an artist, hold the standard higher, please.
“can you make this green a little bit more like the feeling of biting a butterfly? and also rewrite the copy to make it more crunchy. You have 1 hour, yes I know it’s 3am”
Tell me you’ve never taken an art course
without telling me you’ve never taken an art courseby being a condescending prickyou’ve never been in a situation like that? I have as a clown, a musician, a performance artist, a graphic designer and a marketer.
And I worked in art criticism for a national newspaper for which I won a journalism award lol
No, I’ve only ever heard things like that in a comedy sketch making fun of art. I guess I went to a better art school than you. Was your award given by journalists or artists?
So, explain why you think this is anything other than a waste of time for engineering students?
Engineers tend to get trapped between their calipers. They need to look holistically at the entire package. They need to play with things and think about their meaning and purpose. They need to analyze their decisions in the context of the human experience. They need to be free to experiment without technical restraints so they can push against the boundaries of what’s “possible”. Art is fast and fun. Design is smotth and calculated.
This guy is the perfect example. He gets this “great idea”, mills up a giant block of aluminum, spends 10 days faffing around, then throws it in the bin and starts over. Dude needs to sketch some shit and play with cardboard and clay and get his thoughts together before running to spin up his favorite tool.
perhaps your subjective experience is not the same as mine, and similarly, what I’ve experienced is not as universal as I hoped and my joking little comment about what it’s like to get unusual feedback doesn’t land with you - or anyone perhaps on this forum
and thats OK. My apologies if it didn’t resonate, but also I don’t think either of us will get any more out of bickering.
Perhaps I can back too harsh, but I hear that response anytime I bring up art in front of engineers. It isn’t funny, is mainly lies and is meant to denegrate the whole occupation of art. If you’re an artist hold the standard higher please.
As someone who did go to engineering school, I did not read funkless_eck’s comment as denigrating artists, in any way. I read it as denigrating the unrealistic requests made by art-illiterate clients.
Both their and Captain Aggrevated’s comments where about the unrealistic stresses put on their professions by the subject-illiterate colleagues/clients. They’re highlighting the pain, which is cathartic but not how a real class would work; however, I didn’t assume they’re in here seriously proposing new pedagogy. This is the internet.
Humanities and Shop classes that teach the basics of other professions show that even the basics are more complex than an outsider would assume. So, yeah, engineers should round out their curriculum so they don’t become jag-offs that expect unrealistic expectations.
I don’t know what class you missed though, because you took a joke aimed at those dismissing your profession and chose to internalize it instead. Talk about playing to type; the self-obssessed artiste. If you’re an artist, hold the standard higher, please.