• Juice@midwest.social
    10·
    4 hours ago

    Not every exasperated petty bourgeois could have become Hitler, but a particle of Hitler is lodged in every exasperated petty bourgeois

    That’s right I’m posting Trotsky on .ml

  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
    2·
    4 hours ago

    There is a “cost of living” small grocer in town that has boogied up my old neighborhood. I’m glad if the workers are at least earning more money, but it’s the same problem as a “good king” — good or bad, it’s not like you have any real democratic control over your own workplace.

    Where are we on co-ops anyway?

  • Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml
    9·
    8 hours ago

    Let the small businesses follow the rules of their dearest ‘freemarket’. Why should I interfere in the proletarianization of the petite bourgeoisie?

  • wub@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    6 hours ago

    I shop at a small grocer run by good people who don’t exploit their workers. Where should I shop otherwise?

  • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
    16·
    13 hours ago

    Small business owners are the absolute worst. I worked for a few in my youth and they feel so entitled to exploit labour and get legit mad when they can’t?

    I took one guy to the labour board for unpaid wages, not even run-of-the-mill exploitation, and I thought he was going to get violent in the mediation 😬

    • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      5·
      7 hours ago

      Did you win? Sounds like you probably did if he got so frothingfash about it. On the other hand, just because one of them throws a hissy fit at the drop of a hat or gets physically threatening doesn’t mean they failed to get their way.

      I knew and had to spend a lot of time with a former small business owner who lost her ~100 employee business and ended up living the worst nightmare of any capitalist: being a wage worker. Having to exist on the other side of the class divide and get exploited rather than do the exploitation went a long way in humbling her I think, though it happened a decade before I met her. But she still remained one of the most petulant people, totally unable to admit to having any fault or being wrong in any way and was always just so childish for the most asinine reasons. (Though to be fair I’ve also known life long proles with similar issues).

      Small business owners really do put the “petty” in the term petty bourgeoisie.

      • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
        5·
        6 hours ago

        I did win, lol. There wasn’t much question that I would win - his argument was that I didn’t give notice so he didn’t need to give me my last pay cheque 🤷‍♀️

  • Virgmantx@mander.xyz
    7·
    16 hours ago

    J/W do you get excited to shop at Walmart, or is your problem that people are happier shopping somewhere else? I can’t figure out the point. Do you think supporting small business is a left aligned practice and you just need to let people know how much hate you have available? Or do you just lack the perspective to make meaningful content from your basement? It’s ok to be a lurker if you don’t have anything important to say.

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
      19·
      15 hours ago

      Do you think supporting small business is a left aligned practice and you just need to let people know how much hate you have available?

      Ahh yes, supporting le petit bourgeoisie and their dreams to become a small business tyrant … Totally a central tenet of socialist theory.

      The problem with small business owners is that they overwhelmingly support the conservative machine because the actual upper class throw them bones to use them as a political buffer between themselves and the working class.

      The simple fact is that most small businesses are dependent on tax breaks and low minimum wages to stay in business, and are often worse and more dangerous places to be employed than larger corporations.

      • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        4·
        3 hours ago

        are often worse and more dangerous places to be employed than larger corporations.

        legit
        you piss off your boss at a big corp and lose them a bunch of money, you get fired
        you piss off your boss at a mom and pop and lose them a bunch of money, they turn up at your house

      • Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
        5·
        5 hours ago

        That last part reminded me of the common response from libs when Biden wanted to take 6 years to raise minimum wage to a pitiful $15/hr was “But doing it immediately would hurt small businesses!!! We have to do it slowly and tell people to suck it up even though it still won’t be enough by the time the $15 gets here!!!”

    • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
      21·
      15 hours ago

      Do you think supporting small business is a left aligned practice and you just need to let people know how much hate you have available?

      Completely incoherent. The first and second halves of the sentence seem to have nothing to do with each other. You’re asking if someone who described small business owners as fascist thinks supporting them is leftist?

    • TheLastHero [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      20·
      16 hours ago

      The proletariat cannot trust the petite bourgeoise and vice versa. As a class they can only aspire to enter the ranks of the haute bourgeoisie and in the meantime typically try to imitate their exploitative culture, lifestyle and morality in order to do so. Otherwise they fail and sink back to the ranks of the proletariat. Only the laboring proletarian classes possesses the revolutionary potential to seize the world and its capital to work for themselves and all of humanity.

      In times of great crisis and extreme exploitation, the petite bourgeoise will occasionally be pressed economically so hard by the monopolistic haute bourgeoisie that they will end up siding with a proletarian revolution for their own survival; but in such a case the victorious proles, as the leading class now, must end the petite bourgeoise’ exploitative practices, dispossess them of their petty capital, and dissolve their class into proletarians themselves. This fundamental contradiction in their class interests is insurmountable and generates conflict.

    • حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.onlineOPEnglish
      21·
      16 hours ago

      A small bourgeois capitalist is still a capitalist.

      You:

      1. Locate your avatar in the top right of the screen and select “Settings”

      1. Select “Delete Account”

      1. Enter your password and select “Delete”

      • Virgmantx@mander.xyz
        3·
        16 hours ago

        Lol you got me! I should stop using money in America because it’s bad. You are a revolutionary, the only person who hates the system we are in. The way you fix it by shit posting on lemmy, oh man class hero material. I bet you’ve volunteered in some way shape or form too make the world better. I should become a principled bad faith actor like you. How much you pay the cell phone over there mr marx lol. Or did you barter it up. What a joke. You are a little capitalist too you live disconnected from reality. You were in for a rude awakening when your mom kicks you out of the basement

          • Virgmantx@mander.xyz
            3·
            13 hours ago

            Lol it’s just a weird thing to get hung up on is all. Just because somebody supports a small business over a mega corp doesn’t mean they are thrilled with capitalism. Seems like a made up issue to talk about hating a system when there’s more than enough real or impactful issues, I didn’t mean to hurt so many feelings. I didn’t know groups of liberals talking about small business was affecting so many people in the country so deeply

            • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
              12·
              13 hours ago

              Lol it’s just a weird thing to get hung up on is all. Just because somebody supports a small business over a mega corp doesn’t mean they are thrilled with capitalism.

              No one but you suggested that was happening?

              Seems like a made up issue to talk about hating a system when there’s more than enough real or impactful issues, I didn’t mean to hurt so many feelings.

              Conservatives constantly use small businesses as a front to pass the fiscal policies that you are alluding to. I can’t even count the number of times a conservative politician has used the phrase “small businesses are the backbone of America”

              Also, the only person who seems too emotional is you.

              didn’t know groups of liberals talking about small business was affecting so many people in the country so deeply

              Wut?

              • Virgmantx@mander.xyz
                3·
                13 hours ago

                Not sure why you think I’m emotional, I expressed an opinion that’s different, that’s all. The meme was somebody being frustrated hearing liberals tell you to support small business. Idk, nobody tells me how to shop, I just called in to question how often the issue actually happened to the poster to make them post this. Not sure why you responded “wut” to me calling out the subject matter, or why you are suggesting nobody brought the matter up, it is the little caption on the meme. People are just in a rush to grab a pitchfork lol

                • LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml
                  8·
                  7 hours ago

                  Not sure why you think I’m emotional

                  Your very first comment to the post was just dripping with unwarranted condescension which is the hallmark of someone who is angry about something and spiteful towards the person they’re replying to. That is all very much emotional. And to be clear, it’s not “wrong” to be emotional, it’s often the appropriate response (though in your case, it was not). Own up to it.

                  I expressed an opinion that’s different, that’s all.

                  Oh that’s all? Just an opinion, really? You’re so clearly doing the “I’m not mad, I’m not mad! You’re the one whose mad!” thing and anyone reading this thread can see that, whether they agree with you or not. It’s not wrong to be upset about something, but come on and just own it instead of denying it and embarrassing yourself by pretending otherwise.

                  The meme was somebody being frustrated hearing liberals tell you to support small business. Idk, nobody tells me how to shop, I just called in to question how often the issue actually happened to the poster to make them post this.

                  This has nothing to do with anyone “telling you how to shop,” but that that’s where you immediately take it is very telling about your mindset. Do you have any idea what outsized role small business owners (aka petty bourgeoisie) have played in all historical and current fascist movements? Of course you don’t, or you wouldn’t have acted so personally aggrieved, thinking OP was criticizing your shopping habits (lol). Your snarky and sarcastic tantrum about OP’s completely justified seething at the well-known liberal tradition of idolizing some of the most objectively reactionary elements of society only goes to show how deeply ignorant you are about leftist theory and historical reality.

                  People are just in a rush to grab a pitchfork lol

                  “Could I be wrong? No, of course not! It’s just that everyone else is out to get me.”

        • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
          5·
          14 hours ago

          Do you know what a capitalist is tho?

          I think one of the barriers to freedom isn’t that people don’t realize they are capitalists, but that too many people think they are…

    • deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.mlEnglish
      6·
      15 hours ago

      Walmart has cheap shit. I hate going to Walmart but I like buying cheap shit to feed myself with. Yes it’s low quality, and yes I actually kinda hate going in there. It’s too fucking big, corporate sanitized all white floors and roof, I hate that stupid fucking Walmart radio station they have, I could go on all day. I would love if Walmart as a corporation fell today. In fact I hope it does. I hope they all do one by one slowly and miraculously so we (the people) can pick up the pieces and use the resources and networks they have to feed people and stop relying on imperialism abroad altogether. Is that a good enough answer or are u just gonna whine more and call someone a tankie?

    • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
      8·
      15 hours ago

      And they’re absolutely the worst. Not only are they constantly in a panicked state at the looming threat of being thrown back into the labor pool, all the tepid labor reforms the big companies sort of have to abide by don’t apply to them.